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The Bush Administration is not Responsible for the Demise of the Black Community!
 
 
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....and more so than the Bush Administration.....

....the Black community through its own inept leadership and the Black middleclass who praise are indeed more responsible for the demise of the Black community.

......valid information such as......

.....the perversion of the Black community!

....and/or its treasonous inept elected representatives, and/or the Black middleclass who praise them.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
 
 
social conservtism vs political conservatism......black people are socially conservative.....political conservatism is for racist white males.....everyone else is just a pawn trying to be on the inside....but will never get there....because they are resented and hated, yet can be used to put a black face on racism.........
 
"social conservtism vs political conservatism......black people are socially conservative.....political conservatism is for racist white males.....everyone else is just a pawn trying to be on the inside....but will never get there....because they are resented and hated, yet can be used to put a black face on racism........." by Kevin41

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....now speaking of placing a Black face on racism, Black biggotry, the quotation below in authored by Kevin41

"I wonder if this guy Lofton would look over his shoulder in lilly white backwoods part of alabama at night if there were white guys walking behind him....lets see him really test his loyalty to those good ole white folks......." by Kevin41

....now I really have no reason to visit or relocate to the lilly white backwoods of Alabama or otherwise. Can't make any real money there, none of my relatives, or anyone I would want to visit lives there, so it would be pointless to make such a move or visit. Now if I were to make such a visit or move, my chances of survival would still be much greater than the risk of living in any predominately Black community.

.....and Kevin41 suggested that I move to Alabama, Mississippi, etc., etc.

......Something must not be right upstairs in the old noggin!


....there is little if anything of merit that would come from the thoughts of any Kevin41, that I would find useful!

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Black people must continue to work to pull themselves up whether rich, middle class or underclass..and the progressives must ignore the house negro with his irrational thinking that does not serve the best-interest of black people....just like we work to offset the adverse actions taken by racists...like crooked cops and killer gang bangers...the house negro and his racist white colleague who he views as God......must not be allowed to stop forward thinking and progress..." by Kevin41

....the above quotation has been amended by Michael Lofton to interject the reality of it as opposed to information as posted by a professor Kevin41 that lacks factual basis. Some Professor he must be, when he continues to refer to information that lacks factual basis. When lip service, and/or unwarranted character assassination are used to support your contentions and beliefs, more so than not the contention or belief does not hold validity.

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LA County Supervisors Past and Present

The Districts

I understand why 5th District Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich, and former 4th District Los Angeles County Supervisor Dean Dana, now deceased, would be in on shutting off the life line of Blacks, Hispanics, and/or other minorities, because:

A. They are not mandated by law and sworn in under the oath of office to serve the 2nd District.

B. It is not in their best interest to speak up for or represent Blacks, Hispanics, and/or other minorities, in any situation where they stand to lose assets.

....and Brentwood Burke's loyalty to the working class, the underclass, the minority community must not be real, because she aligned herself with the very affluent in Supervisor Antonovich, and Supervisor Dana, who are far right and Republican.

...and the disgraceful actions of our own Black elected representatives, have driven me to become a member of the Republican Party

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"ARTICLE II.

Board of Supervisors

Section 4. The County of Los Angeles shall have a Board of Supervisors consisting of five members, each of whom must be an elector of the district which he represents, must reside therein during his incumbency, must have been such an elector for at least one year immediately preceding his election,5 and shall be elected by such district. Their terms of office shall be four years, and each shall hold until his successor is elected and qualified. No person while a member of the Board of Supervisors shall receive any compensation, in addition to that provided for by this Section, for services rendered to any public or governmental entity. They shall each receive as compensation for their services a salary, payable monthly from the County Treasury, which shall be the same as that now or hereafter prescribed by law for a judge of the Superior Court in and for the County of Los Angeles, except that retirement benefits shall be those now or hereafter provided by law for officers and employees of the County of Los Angeles.6 They shall devote all their time during business hours to the faithful service of the public." the requirement of residency as mandated by the Los Angeles County Charter


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Mind you 2nd District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, A.K.A "Brentwood Burke", has been in violation of the Los Angeles County Charter the entire time she has held elected office over the 2nd District in that she is not a resident of the 2nd District, residency being a requirement for holding the position.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin41:
social conservtism vs political conservatism......black people are socially conservative.....political conservatism is for racist white males.....everyone else is just a pawn trying to be on the inside....but will never get there....because they are resented and hated, yet can be used to put a black face on racism.........



**This is from the professor with great student and peer evaluations....who does not let house negroes paint a lovely picture of the racial,landscape and feel comfortable with COONING for the white man. People always tell me I am erroneous, but the weakness of their minds will NEVER allow them to rebut what I say with specific, factual matter...that is why the long rambling links are needed to provide some type of false display of thoroughness or to hide the fact that the original statement remains untouched in their rebuttal.....it is funny how someone who is not even a good student or writer can attempt to take a crack at someone who has proven that ability in grade school.......it would behoove them to work on their own cognitive skills and educate themselves so they do not speak from a remedial mindset.......
 
"social conservtism vs political conservatism......black people are socially conservative.....political conservatism is for racist white males.....everyone else is just a pawn trying to be on the inside....but will never get there....because they are resented and hated, yet can be used to put a black face on racism.........

**This is from the professor with great student and peer evaluations....who does not let house negroes paint a lovely picture of the racial,landscape and feel comfortable with Cooning for the white man.
People always tell me I am erroneous, but the weakness of their minds will NEVER allow them to rebut what I say with specific, factual matter...that is why the long rambling links are needed to provide some type of false display of thoroughness or to hide the fact that the original statement remains untouched in their rebuttal.....it is funny how someone who is not even a good student or writer can attempt to take a crack at someone who has proven that ability in grade school.......it would behoove them to work on their own cognitive skills and educate themselves so they do not speak from a remedial mindset" by Professor Kevin41

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"but this is to the racist and the rag head negroes who swear Black people are the worse of everything......

1.blacks only voted for bus 8-11%, 5% in texas..now it is public opinion that he is a sorry azz president.

2.blacks were against the war from jump street....NOW the majority is against it

3. the black lady in congress was the only one with the balls to speak out against the war...she was castigated...but now has a following....go figure........" by Kevin41

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....just auguments the reality that the only thing growing in the Black community is.....

....Our own disgraceful elected Black leadership, and that Black middleclass who praise them will join forces by the thousands to defend a very far from being among the truly innocent Tookie Williams, but when it comes opening their mouths, standing firm to be ethical, being courageous to serve the truly innocent, activity to do the moral, the ethical, and uphold the rights of the truly innocent is virtually nonexistent in the typical liberal Democratic dominated Black community.

.....just face it by and large our own misfit Black elected leadership, and the no good Black middleclass who praise them are just an backwards set of individuals.

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....now speaking of placing a Black face on racism, Black biggotry, the quotation below in authored by Professor Kevin41

"I wonder if this guy Lofton would look over his shoulder in lilly white backwoods part of alabama at night if there were white guys walking behind him....lets see him really test his loyalty to those good ole white folks......." by Professor Kevin41

....now I really have no reason to visit or relocate to the lilly white backwoods of Alabama or otherwise. Can't make any real money there, none of my relatives, or anyone I would want to visit lives there, so it would be pointless to make such a move or visit. Now if I were to make such a visit or move, my chances of survival would still be much greater than the risk of living in any predominately Black community.

.....and Kevin41 suggested that I move to Alabama, Mississippi, etc., etc.

......Something must not be right upstairs in the old noggin!


....there is little if anything of merit that would come from the thoughts of any Kevin41, that I would find useful!

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"Black people must continue to work to pull themselves up whether rich, middle class or underclass..and the progressives must ignore the house negro with his irrational thinking that does not serve the best-interest of black people....just like we work to offset the adverse actions taken by racists...like crooked cops and killer gang bangers...the house negro and his racist white colleague who he views as God......must not be allowed to stop forward thinking and progress..." by Professor Kevin41

....the above quotation has been amended by Michael Lofton to interject the reality of it as opposed to information as posted by Professor Kevin41, Empty Purnata, and/or those of similar misguided belief whose contentions that lacks factual basis. Some Professor Kevin41 must be, when he continues to author information that lacks factual basis. When lip service, and/or unwarranted character assassination are used to support your contentions and beliefs, more so than not the contention or belief does not hold validity.

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LA County Supervisors Past and Present

The Districts

I understand why 5th District Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael Antonovich, and former 4th District Los Angeles County Supervisor Dean Dana, now deceased, would be in on shutting off the life line of Blacks, Hispanics, and/or other minorities, because:

A. They are not mandated by law and sworn in under the oath of office to serve the 2nd District.

B. It is not in their best interest to speak up for or represent Blacks, Hispanics, and/or other minorities, in any situation where they stand to lose assets.

....and Brentwood Burke's loyalty to the working class, the underclass, the minority community must not be real, because she aligned herself with the very affluent in Supervisor Antonovich, and Supervisor Dana, who are far right and Republican.

...and the disgraceful actions of our own Black elected representatives, have driven me to become a member of the Republican Party

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"ARTICLE II.

Board of Supervisors

Section 4. The County of Los Angeles shall have a Board of Supervisors consisting of five members, each of whom must be an elector of the district which he represents, must reside therein during his incumbency, must have been such an elector for at least one year immediately preceding his election, and shall be elected by such district. Their terms of office shall be four years, and each shall hold until his successor is elected and qualified. No person while a member of the Board of Supervisors shall receive any compensation, in addition to that provided for by this Section, for services rendered to any public or governmental entity. They shall each receive as compensation for their services a salary, payable monthly from the County Treasury, which shall be the same as that now or hereafter prescribed by law for a judge of the Superior Court in and for the County of Los Angeles, except that retirement benefits shall be those now or hereafter provided by law for officers and employees of the County of Los Angeles. They shall devote all their time during business hours to the faithful service of the public." the requirement of residency as mandated by the Los Angeles County Charter


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Mind you 2nd District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, A.K.A "Brentwood Burke", has been in violation of the Los Angeles County Charter the entire time she has held elected office over the 2nd District in that she is not a resident of the 2nd District, residency being a requirement for holding the position.

Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
 
Bush Appoints Affirmative Action Critic and Opponent of Title IX to Head the U.S. Civil Rights Commission
Early in Dec. 2004, Bush named Gerald Reynolds, an outspoken critic of affirmative action, to take over as head of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission. The announcement reportedly came as a bit of a surprise to the former chair, Mary Frances Berry, who had planned on working until her contract expired at the end of Jan. 2005. Berry's relationship with the president had been terse throughout his first term. About a week before Reynolds' appointment was announced, the commission issued a report stating Bush "failed to exhibit leadership on pressing civil rights issues." In 2001, Reynolds, who has publicly referred to affirmative action as the "big lie," was nominated, but never confirmed, to head the Education Department's Office of Civil Rights. During his tenure at the Education Department, Reynolds tried to undercut Title IX (equal education for women and girls) policies, complaining that the law led to cuts in men's athletic programs. He also refused to investigate statistical disparities between boys and girls in high school vocational education programs. Former co-workers of Reynolds have reportedly said they would not be surprised to see him challenge affirmative action or reevaluate the Voting Rights Act, a landmark civil rights law that is up for renewal in 2007.


Sources: United Press International, "Change Presaged in Civil Rights," Marie Horrigan, Dec. 8, 2004; Kansas City Star, "KC Lawyer to Lead U.S. Rights Panel," Matt Stearns, Dec. 8, 2004; Knight Ridder, "Bush Replacing Civil Rights Commission Chair with Ideologues," Clarence Lusane, Dec. 15, 2004.


**I wonder what motivates a black person to support this guy, especially ones from poverty-ladenbackgrounds who need educational resources for themselves and their offspring?
 
Michael,

Who has ever stated that the Bush Administration was responsible for the "demise" of the black community??
 
be it stated or implied...it is amazing how a lying sonfoabitch will try to create the openings to validate their dumb schit when called out on it....there is nothing like a fool that says something a certain way and actually try to change the meaning midstream......sorry motherfuckers for real.........
 
black community ignorant and perverted...now this is coming from a dysfunctional criminal....how's that for audacity?
 
A BETTER QUESTION IS:

Based on the PERPETUAL FOCUS of the Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalists who are in the dominant position in the "thought leadership" in this country.....do you believe that they are laying the ground work for the TRANSFORMATION OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY based on the ideas and concepts that they put forth OR can we expect the "Same Ole Same" as they keep RETREADING the same wheel?

In my view THEY FOCUS ON THE EXTERNAL because they don't have the MANAGEMENT SKILLS to work for effective change on the internal by building an internal infrastructure to support it.

If we stood back and watched the issues that come up on a monthly basis that cause the "lap dog" to run off course in his role as a PROXY FOR LIBERAL INTERESTS INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY it is no surprise that many of our communities remain as they are.

These Black Democrats in Civil Rights Leaders Clothing are more committed to QUASI-SOCIALISM AND PROGRESSIVISM THAN THEY ARE IN

"Doing The Nessary Means To Achieve A Certain End

 
 
CON-Feed...

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
and stop
TWO FRONTIN'!



    Frown "In my view THEY FOCUS ON THE EXTERNAL because they don't have the MANAGEMENT SKILLS to work for effective change on the internal by building an internal infrastructure to support it." Frown
Is that your Final Answer? I mean, I could swear this is what you claimed to believe... IN YOUR VIEW:
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At no point have I made this a MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE venture.

I have made the point that there are TWO FRONTS in the movement for TRANSFORMATION of African Americans.

The first front is to change America. The Civil Rights Movement changed America...

The second front... is the struggle to CHANGE BLACK PEOPLE...

These two components are seperate but interrelated.

At the same time DIFFERENT LEADERS ARE NEEDED FOR THE BATTLE AT EACH FRONT.
So, seriously?? If you actually believe(d) there were and still are TWO FRONTS to fight on and "different leaders are needed on EACH Front" simultaneously... then what is your beef with the so-called "Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalists" and "Black Democrats in Civil Rights Leaders Clothing"? HUH?? What is it CON-Feed?

Were you LYING when you made that post on July 18, 2005 at approximately 04:22 AM??
Were you, then, and have you always been (LYING and) TWO FRONTIN'??
Or was that one of your patented Weasel Boxing moves?

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sad If you think that you are [going to hit] me with "knock out blows"... I [will step] out of the way... (read: I WILL LIE about my position to hide my position and/or try to cover up my weaknesses, flaws, and contradictions once they are clearly exposed. You know, I got to Save Face.) sad
Always Duckin, Dodgin' and Running Like A Scared Little Bitch, huh CON-Feed??

Anyway... Why are you TWO FRONTIN'???
Why did you say that shit back on July 18, 2005 if you knew you were going to CONTRADICT that shit and never really believed that shit in the first place?

Note: Your idea here is in direct contradiction to your idea of TWO FRONTS. Two Fronts that are "interrelated"... Hmmm...
 
"funny how the bush lovers tuck their tails in their azzes and avoid the forums where bush is factually taken to task.....lacky azz sambo azz nias......fo reel.............." by Professor Kevin41
 
quote:
Originally posted by Michael:
"black community is ignorant and perverted...now this is coming from a dysfunctional criminal....how's that for audacity? by a dysfunctional Black University Professor


Michael:

This is an VERY OVER-GENERALIZED STATEMENT.
I reject this.

The Black community is in a state of "HI-JACK" by certain FUNDAMENTALISTS who rule the roost.

They fear having to PUT THEIR IDEAS ON THE TABLE FOR INSPECTION. Thus they go on the offensive and ATTACK.

To me POPULARITY of one's ideas IS NO EVIDENCE IN AND OF ITSELF OF THEIR ACCURACY AND EFFECTIVENESS. This is shown by REAL WORLD PROOF AS THE POLICIES PLAY ON THE STREET.

You know that the Fundamentalists on this board are going to attack you in making such a statement. I hope that you will clarify what you are saying.

There are "Black people" in the physical sense.

There is "Black Consciousness" as these same people attempt to work for the best interests of our race

And lastly there is "A Particular Ideology" ONE OF WHICH has dominated our people, shaping their understanding of events via television, newspapers and radio. THEY REPRESENT ONE OF MANY IDEOLOGIES. They have the NUMBERS. It is this IDEOLOGY that MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR PRODUCING RESULTS

The fundamentalists in our community seek to RESIST CHANGE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY

. To suggest change is BLAMING THE VICTIM. He is not at fault for any element of his condition. THE SYSTEM IS AT FAULT.

The Mission of the Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalist Is To Change "The System" and thus CHANGE WHITE FOLKS so that Black folks might live toward a higher standard


(I challenge any of my critics to BUCK this statment based on you behavior).

The biggest fear of the BQPF is that WHITE FOLKS WILL LEAVE THEM and thus they will have to make it on their own (See Detroit, Camden, Gary, East St. Louis and Benton Harbor).

When they are in a condition of issolation ALL OF THEIR STRATEGIES COME TO A CRASH. They have NO LEVERAGE TO USE AGAINST ANYONE. At this point they are forced to focus on ORGANIC DEVELOPMENT.

They largely REJECT many of the economic and financial principles that have allowed AMERICAN STANDARD OF LIVING to rise higher than most are around the world.

It would be more clear for them to make note of the PRODUCTIVE CAPACITY OF THEIR WAY OF THINKING and how Detroit, for example is in line with this wall of production that their ideology brings. It is still higher than that of Guatemala or Haiti BUT IT WILL NEVER BE AS HIGH AS HONG KONG or South Korea, for example.

There is a need for a change in the Black community no less than the "departure from the DARK AGES" brought about in Europe.

All IDEAS THAT CANNOT BE SUPPORTED AS THE INGREDENTS FOR A SUCCESSFUL TRANSFORMATION NEED TO BE PURGED.

The leadership and their ideas (more importantly) that Black people held onto as we battled WHITE FOLKS are not the same qualities that will need to be at the helm as we STRUGGLE INTERNALLY TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE.

When you want "Civil Rights" you get "Civil Rights Leaders" to lead you.

When you want ORGANIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT - YOU GET SOMEONE WHO HAS THIS TYPE OF EXPERIENCE.

Otherwise YOU WILL BE TOLD THAT "ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT" IS A

RIGHT

that you are being denied.

To the person who is an "expert with a hammer" EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL.

appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl appl
 
laugh

Get Your Rant On, huh CON-Feed... Big Grin

Yeah... Big letters. They'll do the trick, huh? lol

Talk about the "Same Ole, Same Ole"... tongue
 
"black community is ignorant and perverted...now this is coming from a dysfunctional criminal....how's that for audacity? by a dysfunctional Black University Professor

"This is an VERY OVER-GENERALIZED STATEMENT. I reject this." by Constructive Feedback

"funny how the bush lovers tuck their tails in their azzes and avoid the forums where bush is factually taken to task.....lacky azz sambo azz nias......fo reel.............." by Professor Kevin41

I don't reject, or even consider this to be a misnomer at all, because thus far, those in positions of influence, and the numerous individuals who praise misfits in our community make such an over generalized statement a reality!
 
Thats okay....i'd drop my careers and collect cans before my momma would have to beg a white man....plus you claim to have been on the street and in jail before....I feel for you even though I do not like your racist white licking azz...but with that in mind, you are hardly in the position to call someone else dysfunctional...and that is the reality of it...need you be reminded of the fact....
 
quote:
Originally posted by Constructive Feedback
The Mission of the Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalist Is To Change "The System" and thus CHANGE WHITE FOLKS so that Black folks might live toward a higher standard


Question, is there something wrong with this?

You seem to have no problem with White Quasi-Fascist Reactionary Fundamentalists (WQFRF) tryign to change "The System" to benefit White people and unfairly discriminate against non-White people and prevent them from progressing....
 
"Thats okay....i'd drop my careers and collect cans before my momma would have to beg a white man....plus you claim to have been on the street and in jail before....I feel for you even though I do not like your racist white licking azz...but with that in mind, you are hardly in the position to call someone else dysfunctional...and that is the reality of it...need you be reminded of the fact...." by Kevin41

"the black community is ignorant and perverted...now this is coming from a dysfunctional criminal....how's that for audacity?" by Kevin41

Just as surely as a Kevin41 can call someone dysfunctional so can I. Heck, you have yet to prove anything where I'm either dysfunctional and/or criminal, thus what goes around comes around.

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"So Lofton, what do you think of the lady getting probabtion for murdering the little black girl? She was not innocent and only received probation. Do you think justice was served in that situation?" by Kevin41

....and to compare a situation where an individual with no prior criminal history in a Jennifer Porter who clearly admits guilt and accepts total responsibility for the accidental death of Black children she struck as a result of speeding while driving, with that of a career felon and a cold blooded murderer in a Tookie Williams, who has yet to accept responsibility for the deaths of four individuals he murdered while under the influence of PCP is absurd.

It is a no brainer that the penalties associated with the injury to the victim(s), as it relates to a Jennifer Porter with no previous criminal history, and who openly admitted her guilt for wreckless driving that resulted in the death of children, to which the resulting criminal penalties for death would not be as severe as that of someone with a long criminal history and who intentionally without any remorse commits a serious premeditated criminal act that results in the death of one or more individuals.

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"So Lofton, what do you think of the lady getting probabtion for murdering the little black girl? She was not innocent and only received probation. Do you think justice was served in that situation?" by Kevin41

....and I have already responded to this question, the response being.....

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Rather than make this a racial issue, why is that, that is, if it hasn't been pursued already, that no one is filing a civil claim in behalf of the Wilkin's family, against Jennifer Porter for wrongful death?

I gather from the article that Jennifer Porter was on duty as a Tampa Unified School District, public school teacher. The next question.......

...Why is it that no attorney is assisting the Wilkins family heirs of the boys killed, in a civil action for wrongful death against the Tampa Unified school district, Jennifer Porter's employer?

This would be an opportunity for a competent Black attorney to file a civil suit against the Tampa Unified School District and Jennifer Porter. Whether this was a racial incident or not, turning this set of circumstances into a racial incident is not productive!

....Case in point, although Robert Blake was acquitted of murder in his criminal trial, Blake now is facing civil lawsuit for wrongful death, to which slim chance exists where Robert Blake will escape being forced to pay for the damages, as in his criminal trial.

Clearly this would indeed be good cause for a wrongful death claim!

Jennifer Porter confessed to striking the children, as a means of damage control. When you consider Jennifer Porter's response to confess to this accident, this would not be considered an act of using her economic status to seek leniancy, or turn this into some racially motivated incident.

......But officials said to warrant a vehicular homicide charge, prosecutors would have had to prove at least two violations, other than leaving the scene.

The U.S. District Judge Emmett Lamar Battles, ruled according to the facts as presented. The only recourse for damages at this point would be a civil lawsuit for wrongful death!


...It would not be good, for the Black community to take the law into their own hands, through an act of violence. It would be far more productive for the Wilkin's family to seek restitution in a civil claim for damages, with or without the support of the Black community. In many instances, where the case for wrongful death is cut and dry, the dispute is settled out of court, to the satisfaction of both parties to the litigation. In the event the plaintiff is not satisfied, the only recourse is to continue on with a civil trial.

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"So Lofton, what do you think of the lady getting probation for murdering the little black girl? She was not innocent and only received probation. Do you think justice was served in that situation?" by Kevin41

However, it would not require a Doctorate, Masters, Bachelors, or even a High School Diploma to understand that an individual with no prior criminal history would indeed not receive the same stiff sentence as someone such as a Tookie Williams whose career criminal history is both deadly and extremely criminal. This being said, you must be dysfunctional.

...now speaking of being both a misfit and dysfunctional here is yet another misfit promoted by guess who.....

.....a no good pompous Herb Wesson, who has no concept of what it means to be an elected official.....

Oh, well, that's the Black community for you, the only community on the planet that continuously promotes misfits, the dysfunctional, and/or the disgraceful to lead our community.....

.....it should not be surprising in the least that the Black community is the most backwards, least progressive community, namely because of its tendency to promote misfits over individuals truly worthy of admiration, respect, loyalty, and/or of holding an influentual position of leadership!


Sincerely,

Michael Lofton
 
Like I said Lofton..you have spent more time in dysfunctional situations more than I have by a long shot....but since I would not draw judgement on you....you damn sure aren't in the position to judge black people en masse....despite how much you generalize about black people..many of us have not dealt with the fucked-up situations you have....and with that in mind...my question is....who are you to judge?
 
quote:
and to compare a situation where an individual with no prior criminal history in a Jennifer Porter who clearly admits guilt and accepts total responsibility for the accidental death of Black children she struck as a result of speeding while driving, with that of a career felon and a cold blooded murderer in a Tookie Williams, who has yet to accept responsibility for the deaths of four individuals he murdered while under the influence of PCP is absurd.



yep....and your dumbazz would try to change the issue....I was talking about the other case where the girl was shot in the back of the head by the asian lady....and if you are reaching that far to try and be antagonistic by excusing the murders of black people...then everything that happened to you and your family was deserving....and if you are that hate-filled....more similar things will probably happen to you in the future...so if someone shoots a relative of yours.....just make sure to say it is okay if they do not have a previous criminal record...we all should be allowed to blow way at least one black person and get away with huh lofton? so two or more is when the issue should become one of concern....listen to what a sick fuck you sound like.....if you were around those people's relatives and you spoke of their tragedy in such a casual manner...it would be wrong, but understood if one of their relatives gave you a taste of the same medicine......
 
"yep....and your dumazz would try to change the issue....I was talking about the other case where the girl was shot in the back of the head by the asian lady....and if you are reaching that far to try and be antagonistic by excusing the murders of black people...then everything that happened to you and your family was deserving....and if you are that hate-filled....more similar things will probably happen to you in the future...so if someone shoots a relative of yours.....just make sure to say it is okay if they do not have a previous criminal record...we all should be allowed to blow way at least one black person and get away with huh lofton? so two or more is when the issue should become one of concern....

listen to what a sick fuck you sound like.....if you were around those people's relatives and you spoke of their tragedy in such a casual manner...it would be wrong, but understood if one of their relatives gave you a taste of the same medicine......" by Kevin41

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"So Lofton, what do you think of the lady getting probation for murdering the little black girl? She was not innocent and only received probation. Do you think justice was served in that situation?" by Kevin41

...need to be more specific as to the names of the individuals involved if you expect a response from me. There are thousands of little Black girls and ladies around. I'm not about to become a mind reader. Since you chose not to be specific, I chose to be specific in my answer.

The specifics chosen as to the names and circumstances being....

....and to compare a situation where an individual with no prior criminal history in a Jennifer Porter who clearly admits guilt and accepts total responsibility for the accidental death of Black children she struck as a result of speeding while driving, with that of a career felon and a cold blooded murderer in a Tookie Williams, who has yet to accept responsibility for the deaths of four individuals he murdered while under the influence of PCP is absurd.

It is a no brainer that the penalties associated with the injury to the victim(s), as it relates to a Jennifer Porter with no previous criminal history, and who openly admitted her guilt for wreckless driving that resulted in the death of children, to which the resulting criminal penalties for death would not be as severe as that of someone with a long criminal history and who intentionally without any remorse commits a serious premeditated criminal act that results in the death of one or more individuals.

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"So Lofton, what do you think of the lady getting probabtion for murdering the little black girl? She was not innocent and only received probation. Do you think justice was served in that situation?" by Kevin41

....and I have already responded to this question, the response being.....

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Rather than make this a racial issue, why is that, that is, if it hasn't been pursued already, that no one is filing a civil claim in behalf of the Wilkin's family, against Jennifer Porter for wrongful death?

I gather from the article that Jennifer Porter was on duty as a Tampa Unified School District, public school teacher. The next question.......

...Why is it that no attorney is assisting the Wilkins family heirs of the boys killed, in a civil action for wrongful death against the Tampa Unified school district, Jennifer Porter's employer?

This would be an opportunity for a competent Black attorney to file a civil suit against the Tampa Unified School District and Jennifer Porter. Whether this was a racial incident or not, turning this set of circumstances into a racial incident is not productive!

....Case in point, although Robert Blake was acquitted of murder in his criminal trial, Blake now is facing civil lawsuit for wrongful death, to which slim chance exists where Robert Blake will escape being forced to pay for the damages, as in his criminal trial.

Clearly this would indeed be good cause for a wrongful death claim!

Jennifer Porter confessed to striking the children, as a means of damage control. When you consider Jennifer Porter's response to confess to this accident, this would not be considered an act of using her economic status to seek leniancy, or turn this into some racially motivated incident.

......But officials said to warrant a vehicular homicide charge, prosecutors would have had to prove at least two violations, other than leaving the scene.

The U.S. District Judge Emmett Lamar Battles, ruled according to the facts as presented. The only recourse for damages at this point would be a civil lawsuit for wrongful death!


...It would not be good, for the Black community to take the law into their own hands, through an act of violence. It would be far more productive for the Wilkin's family to seek restitution in a civil claim for damages, with or without the support of the Black community. In many instances, where the case for wrongful death is cut and dry, the dispute is settled out of court, to the satisfaction of both parties to the litigation. In the event the plaintiff is not satisfied, the only recourse is to continue on with a civil trial.

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"So Lofton, what do you think of the lady getting probation for murdering the little black girl? She was not innocent and only received probation. Do you think justice was served in that situation?" by Kevin41

However, it would not require a Doctorate, Masters, Bachelors, or even a High School Diploma to understand that an individual with no prior criminal history would indeed not receive the same stiff sentence as someone such as a Tookie Williams whose career criminal history is both deadly and extremely criminal. This being said, you must be dysfunctional.

...now speaking of being both a misfit and dysfunctional here is yet another misfit promoted by guess who.....

.....a no good pompous Herb Wesson, who has no concept of what it means to be an elected official.....

Oh, well, that's the Black community for you, the only community on the planet that continuously promotes misfits, the dysfunctional, and/or the disgraceful to lead our community.....

.....it should not be surprising in the least that the Black community is the most backwards, least progressive community, namely because of its tendency to promote misfits over individuals truly worthy of admiration, respect, loyalty, and/or of holding an influentual position of leadership!


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....on Devon Brown's Death...

More specifics.....
Los Angeles Policing authorities have been cleared of any criminal violation regarding the LAPD shooting death of Devon Brown.

....now before the LAPD can be condemned for the death of Devon Brown...

1. Why was this child behind the wheel of a vehicle? Somehow an adult dropped the ball and left this child unsupervised.

2. Why was this young male child running the streets during the "wee hours". Somehow an adult dropped the ball and left this child unsupervised.

3. It is a difficult call to make, as to what should or should not be done, whenever anyone drives a vehicle with the aim of running down an individual. Heck during the Vietnam war children with AK47 and other automatic weapons directed their weapons at armed soldiers, to which as hard as it was to not kill the child, on numerous occasions far too numerous to mention that Vietnam veteran had too pull the trigger or else be killed as a result of a child firing rounds to kill soldiers.

An automobile, like a firearm, when misused can also be a very deadly weapon. It is very doubtful that any police officer or for that matter anyone else is going to not use some means of protecting themselves from any driver who chooses to use a vehicle as a weapon to kill or maim.

This being said, the Los Angeles Superior Courts chose not to criminalize or penalize the LAPD for this activity. Clearly Devon Brown's parents and/or legal guardian were blatantly negligent and irresponsible, to which the parents and/or legal guardians of Devon Brown clearly contributed to the death of Devon Brown, through their own failure to be responsible parents and/or legal guardians.


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Either way, no matter how you lump it, .....by far, a much greater percentage of Black people are in fact responsible for killing each other, than to say that Caucasians, Hispanics, Koreans, etc., are responsible for the untold numbers of Blacks now "six feet" under, killed because of the foolishness that typically takes place in virtually any predominately Black neighborhood.
 
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A BETTER QUESTION IS:

Based on the PERPETUAL FOCUS of the Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive Fundamentalists who are in the dominant position in the "thought leadership" in this country.....do you believe that they are laying the ground work for the TRANSFORMATION OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY based on the ideas and concepts that they put forth OR can we expect the "Same Ole Same" as they keep RETREADING the same wheel?

In my view THEY FOCUS ON THE EXTERNAL because they don't have the MANAGEMENT SKILLS to work for effective change on the internal by building an internal infrastructure to support it.

If we stood back and watched the issues that come up on a monthly basis that cause the "lap dog" to run off course in his role as a PROXY FOR LIBERAL INTERESTS INTO THE BLACK COMMUNITY it is no surprise that many of our communities remain as they are.

These Black Democrats in Civil Rights Leaders Clothing are more committed to QUASI-SOCIALISM AND PROGRESSIVISM THAN THEY ARE IN

"Doing The Nessary Means To Achieve A Certain End



All of the self-anoited leaders are a joke.And to some degree I believe more focus should be towards internal problems, not external problems.
 
"....where house negroes fetch drinks and carry luggage for whites and get referred to as BUCKO......oh mammy...the happy days are here again.......oh maaammy.............." by Kevin41

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ML:

It is clear that certain Black operatives are entrenched among our people. They have a greater commitment to their ideological dogma than they do to the "progression" of our people as MEASURED WITH COMMONLY ACCEPTED EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

Their best hope is to continue identifying a boogie man to fight against and to get as many Blacks as possible to UNITE behind this EXTERNAL FIGHT.

(Kweli is seeking out RACISM in lending while a Hispanic group is building a large bank that Bank of America and Wells Fargo now see as a threat to their customers).
 
Indeed CF,

Valid information in news articles, political cartoons from numerous reputable sources have shown and proven that our leadership do not serve the Black community. It is certain that many of the so called prominent Black owned and operated newspapers across the U.S. are aware of this as well. However to challenge the truly unprofessional, treasonous, unethical, misguided, self serving, and elitist character of the typical misfit Black leadership and the segment of the Black community who praise them, would mandate that our own so called prominent Black owned newspapers, journalists, Reverends, judges, historians, teachers, doctors, community activists, political scientists, lawyers, so-called civil rights organizations, etc., etc.,

A. have some backbone for a change, to challenge that misfit set, that most surely exists, in our own community.

B. exhibit a strong sense of what is means to be ethical, moral, and competent.

C. accept responsibility for our own failure as Black people to move forward, as opposed to.....

......making lame excuses that place all the blame on Corporate America, the Bush Administration, President George Bush, Reaganomics, the Republican Party, Condoleeza Rice, Ward Connerly, Larry Elder, CF, ML, Caucasians, Hispanics, the Gangmembers, the illicit Drug Cartels, lack of adequate AA benefits, the denial of continued "Section 8" welfare benefits, the reduction in AFDC benefits, the denial of Reparations for Slavery, the KKK, Storm Front, the Police Department, NRA and organizations that promote the lawful U.S. Constitutional right of law abiding U.S. citizens to bear firearms, the gun manufacturers, etc., etc.,

.....placing the blame on others, even in proven instances to which members of our own community betray the Black community.

D. ...and make history for a change by not following in the footsteps of any loser.
 
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Valid information in news articles, political cartoons from numerous reputable sources have shown and proven that our leadership do not serve the Black community.


ML:

Please note the chart to the left.
After hearing attack after attack on NCLB I decided to so some INDEPENDENT RESEARCH. I learned that just as NCLB is being reauthorized this year - the program itself was really a "reauthorization" of the underlying legislation called "Elementary and Secondary Education Act" (ESEA). "NCLB" is nothing more than the public rebranding of the existing legislation with some added efforts to increase accountability and additional funding. The proper baseline to evaluate the resources committed to "NCLB" to determine if "Bush has shortchanged" our kids it to make a comparison to what has been spent over time.

First I must ask - why haven't some of the most strident people against NCLB and Bush acknowledge that they have been MISLEAD by the operatives who so greatly influence them? After years of attacking the program they have settled upon the claim that it is "underfunded". Even today on the NPR program "News & Notes" Democratic operative Dr. Ronald Walters was again firing shots at NCLB claiming SPENDING CUTS. I don't know about you but I would like for these people to make the case about "SPENDING CUTS" for overall education versus spending cuts in a certain PROGRAM that THEY FAVORED as these resources are shifted to OTHER EDUCATIONAL SPENDING. This is the "cut" that they argue about - which is really a shifting of resources.

But then you look at Kweli on this board. He keys in on the gap which is the amount of money that was authorized versus the amount of money that was actually spent. Thus "spending money" equals "love". When I pointed out that CLINTON also "short changed" spending in the same way I got the usual rebuke 'Clinton is the history, we are talking about the present'.

As quiet as it is kept from them, ML, I am often debating these people to show their double standard rather than inherently disagreeing with each and every point that they make. It is clear that many of them place their ideological bias above what they could claim to be the best interests of Black people. This is why it is so important to have periodic change in our government. That way the attacks that they wage against their enemy politician can be measured against their cheerleading for their permanent friends. All the while we have DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE that cuts beyond their personal sentiments and forces them to explain themselves. All the while that they had been cheering for their "permanent friends" their "permanent interests" have been laid to the side.

All of this bring me to your final point. ML - in my opinion the BIASED BLACK PRESS AND NEWS MEDIA are the real problem preventing change WITHIN our community. Most of these people have the exact same ideology as the Black elected officials and actor-vists they are charged with covering. If you think that you are going to get OBJECTIVE coverage you are sadly mistaken.

Where as the Black Press was originally founded because the majority press was never going to give a Black person a fair shake to express himself publicly and thus they filled a void......today you see the majority of the operatives within the newspaper, radio (both talk and syndicated entertainment DJs), opinion television and to a growing extent - the Internet seeing themselves as the promoters of the "Black Agenda" and thus in on the game. My challenge to them is to take a detached step back from the "Black Agenda" and do some NEEDED INSPECTION of it. Their PEN is needed for COURSE CORRECTION. It is one thing for an empassioned Black elected official to get on stage and proclaim that she represents the "Best Interests of Black people". MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN BY HER BOLDNESS AND AUDACITY TO SAY SO IN A LEGISLATURE THAT IS BASED ON DECORUM. It is the JOB of the Black press to scrutinize these claims over time, not getting caught up in the SENTIMENT but instead to EXPECT MEASURABLE RESULTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY. We can do a fly-over over so many of our areas around the nation that have a high concentration of Black people and the evidence will clearly show that WHAT EVER THE HELL THEY ARE CLAIMING TO DO - IT AIN'T WORKING.

From the perspective of where I sit - IT IS TOO DAMNED CLEAR why they have not been able to make any noticeable changes in Economics, Academics, and Criminal Justice. THEIR VERY POLICIES AND ASSUMPTIONS PLAY A LARGE PART IN THE IN ABILITY TO TRANSFORM THE COMMUNITY

But OOOOOOHHHHHHH ML they love to talk about "Back in the Day": COINTELPRO (their favorite subject), the Black Panther's resistance, the police dogs and Affirmative Action. These are their hooks to "unite" the masses that ONE DAY, some day in the future that is so close - they are going to RECAPTURE the good ole days when they were emboldened.

Where is the BLACK PRESS to smack these people into reality TO-DAMNED-DAY? Where are the voices to let them know that this nation is going through fundamental change and that 'BACK IN THE DAY' is NOT ENOUGH TO LEAD YOU FORWARD?

These people are IDEOLOGUES and FUNDAMENTALISTS.

This amorphous force of R.A.C.I.S.M. stands in the way of all Black people today. "Racism" always wakes up 5 minutes before a Black man and goes to sleep with one eye open right after the Black man. They love to scan the nation looking for INCIDENTS of RACISM and then make the inference that THIS ONE IGNORANT WHITE PERSON'S actions speak for the GENERAL STATE of race relations around the nation. My second principle for 2007 is 'PROPORTIONALITY'. They are pissed, for example, when I show that for every one police killing of a Black man no less than 75 Black people around the nation have been killed since the last police shooting and we have heard nothing from them since that last police incident. No this does not substantiate the police action. It does, however beg the question of the ENVIRONMENTAL CONTEXT that these police had been operating within. Show me the increased number of police searches in a given area and I will show you, in most cases, a community that DEMANDED THAT THE POLICE "DO SOMETHING" because crime and drugs had been running over their community.

The Black Press is a critical MANAGEMENT ARM FOR CHANGE. Instead of advocating FOR an ideology they need to advocate for EFFECTIVE CHANGE. What are their GOALS? Why not focus on the PROGRESSION TO THE GOAL rather than ENFORCING THE IDEOLOGY OF THOSE WHO ARE DOING THE WRITING? The bright light of TIME shows clearly that on several key important measures the aspirations for that "Black Progressive Politician" being put in power and translate into ACTUAL BENEFIT FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY has NOT PANNED OUT for most Black people in this country. In fact I have more evidence that the HARD BALL TACTICS against the EVIL EMPLOYER which was certainly a factor in them RELOCATING out of the community is a more PROVABLE NEGATIVE to the community than the presence of this PROGRESSIVE ELECTED OFFICIAL (you know the one who is said to 'not run the economy') can be proven to have ADVANCED the community.

But of course in many circles - corporations, despite their job creation are HATED while Populist Politicians who's policies so often go after these same evil companies enjoy much popularity. Now if only they could CREATE SOME JOBS this would be great.
 
 
you two need to get a room....and spread pictures of black leaders all over the floor...and then Piss on em....go ahead and get your self-hatred out of your systems.......nothing is right about black folks according to you two....and your lives are obviously troubled...and CF just because you had to leave amerikkka and dupe someone black into marrying your azz based on their cultural ignorance or lack of exposure....you act like that was a big azz accomplishment....you poke it you own it.......
 
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you two need to get a room....and spread pictures of black leaders all over the floor...and then Piss on em....go ahead and get your self-hatred out of your systems......nothing is right about black folks according to you two....and your lives are obviously troubled...and CF just because you had to leave amerikkka and dupe someone black into marrying your azz based on their cultural ignorance or lack of exposure....you act like that was a big azz accomplishment....you poke it you own it.......
 
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nothing is right about black folks according to you two....and your lives are obviously troubled



Kevin41:

If we talk about the PROPORTIONAL impact of what you CLAIM to have against me (Black People are Screwed Up) versus what I can document against YOU (that you have accepted the Inferiority of Black People AS LONG AS SOMEONE ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR POSITION and none of your own actions are a part of the problem).......it is clear who's beliefs are more harmful.

You do a good job DETAILING HOW WE "GOT THIS WAY". If I ever wanted to write a history book or do a documentary I would call you, MBM, Nathaniel and Negrospiritual.

HOWEVER - If I ever wanted to develop a PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD I would run away from ALL OF YOU. TRANSFORMATION from the current form into another greater form using YOUR OWN INTERNAL POWER AND ABILITIES resides outside of your domain of expertise.

You are left seeking IMPROVEMENT via the same SYSTEM THAT YOU HATE.
 
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If we talk about the PROPORTIONAL impact of what you CLAIM to have against me (Black People are Screwed Up) versus what I can document against YOU (that you have accepted the Inferiority of Black People AS LONG AS SOMEONE ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR POSITION and none of your own actions are a part of the problem).......it is clear who's beliefs are more harmful.



laugh lol
 
...many times the Black middleclass are confused and contribute to the demise of the Black community. Far too many of them place more importance in looking out for their personal friends than maintaining competence in the classroom, a position of elected office, etc., etc.

....to which again,

...be careful what you ask for....

...by all means check the true nature of the individual....

....because the latest trend is to have illegal and undocumented immigrants from Somalia, Rwanda, Nigeria, Haiti, etc., etc.,

...teaching U.S. or Foreign Black history at a Junior College, at the University level, and if illegal and/or undocumented immigrants from Barbados, Somalia, Rwanda, Nigeria, Haiti, Cuba, etc., etc.,

...can fraudulently pass as being U.S. born or naturalized citizens, High School.....

...while law abiding and competent Black teachers and historians, who are U.S. citizens by birth are shunned, ignored, and/or replaced with illegal immigrants from Somalia, Rwanda, Nigeria, Haiti, who many times use false pretenses to enter the U.S. and/or who use fraudulent documents that enable them to fool others into thinking that they have U.S. citizenship status.

This enables fraudulent individuals to hold positions, that should be occupied by competent law abiding U.S. citizens.

....and should anyone not believe this is true, Ron Karenga, a convicted felon has been teaching Black history at Long Beach State University for years. I'm willing to bet, the Black community is one of the few communities that would allow this, because unlike the Black community most any other community would be protesting, bombard the school administrators, etc., etc., with petitions to remove a Ron Karenga from the classroom.

Harboring Illegal Immigrants is a Felony

......one of my Black neighbors, who is also a U.S. citizen, harbored 13 illegal immigrant Somalians, one of them being a slave girl for the remaining 12. This same misguided neighbor continues to give refuge to illegal Somalian immigrants in her home. One of the Somalian illegal immigrants living in her residence, teaches Black history at Trade Tech Community College here in Los Angeles.

....indeed CF, more emphasis should be made in teaching the core curriculum of Math, Science, English, U.S. History, etc., etc., etc....

.....because as it stands little emphasis is placed with this, because again....

...many times the Black middleclass are confused and contribute to the demise of the Black community. Many of them place more importance in looking out for their personal friends than maintaining competence in the classroom, a position of elected office, etc., etc.

....which contributes to keeping the Black community, especially as it applies to U.S. born law abiding and ethical Black people in poverty.

...but Oh well, that is the nature of the misfits who lead our community. What baffles me, is how only a few individuals will open their mouths about this reality. In a responsible community, slim chance exists to where misfits rule, while the law abiding and competent remain silent.

......The Black community, especially as it relates to those who sit by the sidelines quietly, may as well aim a 45 caliber hand gun at their own heart, head, etc., and pull the trigger.

....but Oh Well "Let us not be truthful" must be the song and dance ringing strong in the minds of so many misguided Black people.

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