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kresge
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April 24, 2006 at 2:16 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Wise Mother:
The real truth......
Any man who disrepects any woman regardless of color is wrong. Let me break it down. To bring a purple woman to his ex-wife's house to pick up their child and then to find it necessary to have a PDA (public display of affection) in her driveway has disrespected her. I give a hoot that he did what he was supposed to do by providing for the woman he chose to marry and to provide for the child he fathered..... that is only right. However, his high horse died when he tried to flip the script and she was ignorant to let it happen. If he displayed that kind of disrespect during the marriage he should have expected to fight every night. Lucky for him he did not meet MOTHER!
How was giving a quick kiss to his current SO in his car disrespectful? That seems more than a bit of a stretch to me. Not commenting on the verdicial nature of clip, she along with her crew were the ones that seemed disrespectful. Unless the person is abusive to their daughter, I can see no basis for her hostility.
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ma'am
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April 24, 2006 at 2:26 PM
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quote: Originally posted by calvin:
...maybe some black women need to define what a "real woman" is and we can begin to move on from that point.
Right here.
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EbonyRose
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April 24, 2006 at 3:07 PM
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See, that's what I'm saying, kresge! I, personally, am totally confused by the whole opposition to interacial relationships! And I know that will probably make a lot of my female board-mates really made at me ... but, I truly just cannot understand why sooo many Black women have a problem with it and feel as strongly as they do. Be that as it may, I'm not saying that it makes them a bad person or that it's certainly not their right to feel how they want and I respect them and that as an individual. You know me, whatever floats your boat!  However, in a situation like the clip shows, my only consideration would be how this woman connects to and with my child. What she does with my ex-husband should long ago been something I couldn't care less about ... hence, he is my "ex-"  But ... if he is going to subject my child to her presence, I don't want her being a psycho, absolutely no prejudice tendencies (and that would probably go for her family, too!), she needs to have some values (not a nasty hefer), and be a generally overall nice person. If I am not opposed to White people, so much so that I would let my kid play with a White child, then the issue of the race of my ex-husband's current whatever is insignificant. But her personality and overall mindset is what I would think is much more important. 'Cause if she acts crazy around my child ... whether she's Black, White, or blue/green ... 
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HonestBrother
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April 24, 2006 at 4:06 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Wise Mother:
The real truth......
Any man who disrepects any woman regardless of color is wrong. Let me break it down. To bring a purple woman to his ex-wife's house to pick up their child and then to find it necessary to have a PDA (public display of affection) in her driveway has disrespected her. I give a hoot that he did what he was supposed to do by providing for the woman he chose to marry and to provide for the child he fathered..... that is only right. However, his high horse died when he tried to flip the script and she was ignorant to let it happen. If he displayed that kind of disrespect during the marriage he should have expected to fight every night. Lucky for him he did not meet MOTHER!
Her driveway??? He paid for the goddamned house.... Some of you females have lost your ever-loving minds  Disrespect!?...Indeed...
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qty226
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April 24, 2006 at 4:09 PM
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I wonder, how would the ex hubby have felt........if he had put the key in the door, to find a man black or white.......kissing all over his ex, and his child is in the home.
I just think......divorce is already nasty, with hurt feelings........why drag other drama into the mix.
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HonestBrother
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April 24, 2006 at 4:10 PM
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quote: Originally posted by EbonyRose: See, that's what I'm saying, kresge! I, personally, am totally confused by the whole opposition to interacial relationships! And I know that will probably make a lot of my female board-mates really made at me ... but, I truly just cannot understand why sooo many Black women have a problem with it and feel as strongly as they do. Be that as it may, I'm not saying that it makes them a bad person or that it's certainly not their right to feel how they want and I respect them and that as an individual. You know me, whatever floats your boat! However, in a situation like the clip shows, my only consideration would be how this woman connects to and with my child. What she does with my ex-husband should long ago been something I couldn't care less about ... hence, he is my "ex-" But ... if he is going to subject my child to her presence, I don't want her being a psycho, absolutely no prejudice tendencies (and that would probably go for her family, too!), she needs to have some values (not a nasty hefer), and be a generally overall nice person. If I am not opposed to White people, so much so that I would let my kid play with a White child, then the issue of the race of my ex-husband's current whatever is insignificant. But her personality and overall mindset is what I would think is much more important. 'Cause if she acts crazy around my child ... whether she's Black, White, or blue/green ...
Spoken like a woman who can handle 132.674% of a man... 
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HonestBrother
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April 24, 2006 at 4:14 PM
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quote: Originally posted by qty226:
I wonder, how would the ex hubby have felt........if he had put the key in the door, to find a man black or white.......kissing all over his ex, and his child is in the home.
I just think......divorce is already nasty, with hurt feelings........why drag other drama into the mix.
Again, relevant question is how long ago was the divorce? If it was 6 months or a year ago maybe you're right. If it was 3 years ago?.... you have a right to move on with your life... that's what a divorce is for....
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qty226
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April 24, 2006 at 4:21 PM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: quote: Originally posted by qty226:
I wonder, how would the ex hubby have felt........if he had put the key in the door, to find a man black or white.......kissing all over his ex, and his child is in the home.
I just think......divorce is already nasty, with hurt feelings........why drag other drama into the mix.
Again, relevant question is how long ago was the divorce? If it was 6 months or a year ago maybe you're right. If it was 3 years ago?.... you have a right to move on with your life... that's what a divorce is for....
Agreed.....but i felt is was probably a recent divorce.....because she didnt have a job, and he was still paying her bills. Now we all know, a man that has divorced his wife........is not going to continually pay her bills, for years. Again....divorces are never pleasant, and drama is always there, if both sides doesnt handle these situations correctly.
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EbonyRose
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April 24, 2006 at 4:32 PM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: Spoken like a woman who can handle 132.674% of a man...
LOL ... you are so silly sometimes! You need to quit. 
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blkberry
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April 24, 2006 at 4:57 PM
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I would like to take a moment to clarify something that hasn't been addressed. We as black women don't know how to express ourselves to the extent that we can be vunerable to each other. Other women included. Granted we are entitled to a voice. It's often not what you ay, but how you say it. Every women complains about something whether she is black white or purple for that matter. What we need to learn and practice is that you get more with sugar than doo-doo. It's all in the approach. Then it is the man's responsibility to listen, consider and react responsibly. If two people can't effectively communicate. They shouldn't be together in the first place. But honestly how many relationships do you know of where two people can be vunerable to each other with out the fear of getting hurt. Hurt brings about anger nagging and arguing. For the guys that haven't figured out. Sometimes we as women are so hurt that it is hard to calmly express what is going on in our hearts and minds. A true brother takes the time to assess his woman and the situation and gives love instead of insults. Which brings on more pain, and the cycle starts all over again. Until women are given a venue in a man's heart to express our inner most feelings this will continue.
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HonestBrother
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April 24, 2006 at 4:58 PM
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quote: Originally posted by qty226: quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: quote: Originally posted by qty226:
I wonder, how would the ex hubby have felt........if he had put the key in the door, to find a man black or white.......kissing all over his ex, and his child is in the home.
I just think......divorce is already nasty, with hurt feelings........why drag other drama into the mix.
Again, relevant question is how long ago was the divorce? If it was 6 months or a year ago maybe you're right. If it was 3 years ago?.... you have a right to move on with your life... that's what a divorce is for....
Agreed.....but i felt is was probably a recent divorce.....because she didnt have a job, and he was still paying her bills. Now we all know, a man that has divorced his wife........is not going to continually pay her bills, for years. Again....divorces are never pleasant, and drama is always there, if both sides doesnt handle these situations correctly.
I just rewatched the video: I quote: "You don't even remember the last time you worked..." She's getting monthly alimony checks, qty... she probably doesn't have to work... Brotha paid for her house, all the furniture in it, and her car... he's in his child's life... and there's no reason to suspect that he wants anything other than what he states: peace of mind. He already has another house of his own... he sounds like he's moved on... I think that anyone except those who ARE DETERMINED TO SEE SOMETHING THEY DISLIKE IN THIS MAN will assume that a decent amount of time has passed... There's too much in the video in his favor... And then they want to call him a "weak azz nigga".... why?... because he can't handle a "strong black woman" : TRANSLATE: Woman who feels entitled to have a nasty azz attitude... I'm sorry... I think you sistas are nitpicking this man trying to find a reason to hate on someone who - going only on the information presented in this video clip - DESERVES NOTHING BUT YOUR RESPECT... And that's a goddamned shame...
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qty226
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April 24, 2006 at 5:14 PM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Brotha paid for her house, all the furniture in it, and her car..
You are saying this, as if she did NOTHING in the relationship (I hate it, when men bring this up....to throw in a womans face!).  My point is this......when there has been a divorce, and children are involved.....you want to keep the peace. Bringing a girl friend to your EX's house is NOT a good idea. I really dont understand, why you feel this is acceptable behavior.....just because he paid for the house???
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HonestBrother
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April 24, 2006 at 5:18 PM
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quote: Originally posted by qty226: quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Brotha paid for her house, all the furniture in it, and her car..
You are saying this, as if she did NOTHING in the relationship (I hate it, when men bring this up....to throw in a womans face!). My point is this......when there has been a divorce, and children are involved.....you want to keep the peace. Bringing a girl friend to your EX's house is NOT a good idea. I really dont understand, why you feel this is acceptable behavior.....just because he paid for the house???
Again, it seems as though an acceptable period of time has passed... After all, he has already set up another house of his own which takes time... Finally: Even if I were to agree that maybe there is that one piece of dirt on the guy, the fact is HE STILL COMES OFF EXTREMELY WELL The fact that some of you sistas are hating on THIS guy says more about you and the impossibility of pleasing you than it says about him.... PS: He's paying for a whole hell of a lot more than the house... he's paying for her lifestyle...
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qty226
A1 · 1037 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 5:28 PM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: quote: Originally posted by qty226: quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Brotha paid for her house, all the furniture in it, and her car..
You are saying this, as if she did NOTHING in the relationship (I hate it, when men bring this up....to throw in a womans face!). My point is this......when there has been a divorce, and children are involved.....you want to keep the peace. Bringing a girl friend to your EX's house is NOT a good idea. I really dont understand, why you feel this is acceptable behavior.....just because he paid for the house???
Again, it seems as though an acceptable period of time has passed... After all, he has already set up another house of his own which takes time... Finally: Even if I were to agree that maybe there is that one piece of dirt on the guy, the fact is HE STILL COMES OFF EXTREMELY WELL The fact that some of you sistas are hating on THIS guy says more about you and the impossibility of pleasing you than it says about him.... PS: He's paying for a whole hell of a lot more than the house... he's paying for her lifestyle...
Right.......and this is why women shouldnt allow themselves to be dependant on a man financially. 
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HonestBrother
A1 · 9114 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 5:35 PM
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quote: Originally posted by qty226:
Bringing a girl friend to your EX's house is NOT a good idea.
I really dont understand, why you feel this is acceptable behavior.....just because he paid for the house???
One last observation which supports the idea that an acceptable amount of time has passed is: They're not shocked that he brings a woman to the house (who, by the way, is actually in the car in the driveway - not in the house) ... I repeat: They themselves are not making an issue of this... She doesn't say, "How dare you bring a woman to my house... we just signed the papers a month ago..." The issue centers solely around her being a white woman.... Why are you so determined to dislike this man?
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qty226
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April 24, 2006 at 6:02 PM
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I didnt view the video again.....because its useless.
HB, you have to stop thinking that black women are up in arms, because black men want white women.
Its a dead issue.
-A tired black woman.
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HonestBrother
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April 24, 2006 at 6:11 PM
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quote: Originally posted by qty226:
HB, you have to stop thinking that black women are up in arms, because black men want white women.
Qty, I'm not "thinking" anything... I just rewatched the video 3 times... and if you follow what is being said, the controversy is solely over the woman being white..not over the fact that she's a woman... Not one time does anyone say one thing that indicates there's a problem with him dating per se...
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HonestBrother
A1 · 9114 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 6:18 PM
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I'm going to repeat: Can't there be one video and one discussion that doesn't take as its starting assumption that black men aren't worth shit?
Can't there be one relationship where the woman did more to fuck it up?
And can't there be one thread where us guys say "You know what?.... I really felt that!"
Jesus Christ, we don't have any more eye candy...
We have several threads showing love for the ladies (versus how many threads from the sistas showing love for the men????????? - to my knowledge: there's 1 started by art_gurl)
...and still some of you Ladies aren't going to be happy until we guys in the Den are reduced to threads which read
"Yo... home, we ain't shit..."
"Dude, I hear you... I know fo a fact that we ain't shit"
"fo shizzle my nizzle... Black women rule."
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qty226
A1 · 1037 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 7:07 PM
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Dammit HB....
Im not the type to just agree with you.......on certain topics, just to gain your approval........and because of this, a lot of men dont interact with me. Thats cool.....
I've never said anything disrespectful to/about black men.....
I've never said anything disrespectful to/about black women.....
This solves nothing......and causes conflict.
No one is perfect.....and everyone is at fault.
I try not to go into the Den, because its a place where men should be able to voice their opinion, and discuss issues, concerning their lives..........My agenda is not to tell men, what they should and shouldnt do.
As far as this video goes.......it paints a picture, of a black woman upset with her ex, because hes dating a white woman?
Again, who cares? This topic is old.....black women have stopped complaining.....and HAVE moved on.
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HonestBrother
A1 · 9114 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 7:41 PM
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quote: Originally posted by qty226:
Again, who cares? This topic is old.....black women have stopped complaining.....and HAVE moved on.
Moved on to what?... why all this drama over one stupid video?... this discussion was not about the merits of dating white women... If you don't care, why make an issue of it?... I'm not waiting for you to agree with me, qty... I don't require agreement... I'm waiting for you to make sense on the topic of this thread... no insult intended... but I really don't see your problem... You seem set on faulting the guy in this video - which you don't want to rewatch - for reasons which you can't quite seem to articulate or justify... Qty, guys don't want to interact with women who seem deadset on hating/complaining about guys... has nothing to do with agreeing with us to stroke our egos
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HonestBrother
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April 24, 2006 at 7:51 PM
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Are you alright, qty? Is it my imagination or are you a little down?
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qty226
A1 · 1037 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 7:53 PM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Are you alright, qty? Is it my imagination or are you a little down?
Im stressing over finals.......i'll be fine. 
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HonestBrother
A1 · 9114 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 7:59 PM
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quote: Originally posted by qty226: quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Are you alright, qty? Is it my imagination or are you a little down?
Im stressing over finals.......i'll be fine.
 You'll do well... (speaking of finals, I need to make out one...)
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qty226
A1 · 1037 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 8:50 PM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: Qty, guys don't want to interact with women who seem deadset on hating/complaining about guys... has nothing to do with agreeing with us to stroke our egos
Taffy complained/hated black men....... I havent seen any other woman, on this board, hate or complain to this degree. When i dont agree with a man.......i will respectfully let him know, and i expect every man, to do the same. If we agreed on every topic, then we would have no problems.......but since thats not the case.........expect a different point of view. On a lighter note.....i hope you take it easy with your students. I dont know what it is.....but these professors are killing me.  Thanks for the encouragement... 
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EbonyRose
A1 · 16601 Forum Posts
April 24, 2006 at 10:55 PM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Jesus Christ, we don't have any more eye candy...
HB ... did they really take away y'all's eye candy?
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bigddouble
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April 24, 2006 at 11:26 PM
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It's buried in the Den now - I think RR stopped posting it after he saw the blowups. No one has stepped up to replace his efforts either.
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Huey
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April 25, 2006 at 12:20 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Wise Mother:
The real truth......
Any man who disrepects any woman regardless of color is wrong. Let me break it down. To bring a purple woman to his ex-wife's house to pick up their child and then to find it necessary to have a PDA (public display of affection) in her driveway has disrespected her. I give a hoot that he did what he was supposed to do by providing for the woman he chose to marry and to provide for the child he fathered..... that is only right. However, his high horse died when he tried to flip the script and she was ignorant to let it happen. If he displayed that kind of disrespect during the marriage he should have expected to fight every night. Lucky for him he did not meet MOTHER!
The PDA was in his car. It would've been a totally different story, had the guy and his new gf had the PDA outside the car, where his ex and her girlfriends would've seen it in the open.
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Black Viking
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April 25, 2006 at 12:37 AM
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HonestBrother
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April 25, 2006 at 6:10 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Huey:
The PDA was in his car. It would've been a totally different story, had the guy and his new gf had the PDA outside the car, where his ex and her girlfriends would've seen it in the open.
Not only was it in his car, it was just a quick peck... it's not like they were trying to show off or had any reason to believe they were being wached through the window...
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HonestBrother
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April 25, 2006 at 6:11 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Black Viking: 
These male vs. female threads have mostly stopped being interesting to me... but for some reason I need to keep this one going
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EbonyRose
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April 25, 2006 at 7:52 AM
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quote: Originally posted by ddouble:
It's buried in the Den now - I think RR stopped posting it after he saw the blowups. No one has stepped up to replace his efforts either.
Awwww ... well, I'm truly sorry to hear that I hope the decision was his (although I'd truly be shocked and amazed as to why! ) rather than on account of outside influences.  Maybe you should poke him with a stick and make sure he's not asleep at the wheel!  quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: These male vs. female threads have mostly stopped being interesting to me... but for some reason I need to keep this one going
I wish I could help you, HB, but I'm on your side! So, scooch over, Black Viking!!
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LEE SLAUGHTR
D5 · 2 Forum Posts
April 25, 2006 at 7:54 AM
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First of I will say this what I've learned in my 34 years of living is that black people as a whole have serious fucking problems wether it's us sticking together or simply serious issues like this that will draw fire among black men and women.One thing I can say is alot of black women do have internal issues that they need to get some help for because in the long run none of your relationships are going to work out if past issues keep getting directed toward the new man.whoever the woman on this blog said that in fact black women have a reason to complain right and so do black men so what's your point.Brothers always have been put in aposition where we have to hear black women talking shit about us cackling with their girlfriend.moma.grandma whoever but let a good man enterthe door and alot of you all do not know how to act,but let a cruddy brother in and as always he gets the bigger end of the stick always because alot of you feel you need to stay with this crud ball but let a good brother make one mistake and he's punished for life.Those are are just a touch of the situations I can speak on all day everyday but without a doubt black men and black women need to find a common ground of respect among our race toward each other but when you have a society run on so much propaganda, and based on looks and bullshit this movie only will be a ignored situation just like everything else in the black community and if alot of you are not used to that fact by now well what more is there to talk about.I will say this black men have been getting there ass kicked for years and it's time you black sisters deal with your self issues and cut out the oscar nomination for best drmatic actor it's a headache.All black women are not the same so I wil not put you all in the same boat even though you do it to black men.All in all I love my black woman but it needs to be an end to the killing every blackman bullshit all of us are not the same.I personally don't like interacial marriages but to each dumb one his own.Even when I see a blck woman witha white man they seem to extra quite a bit throwing in our face like they have achieved society's greatest man,and brothers in sports and the coporate world do it too.the black race simply has face value issue we need to destroy untill that day comes confusion will run rampant anyway and no matter what we say or do it will not change.Dr.King has been gone for a minute what real part of his dream really took full surface what becaus ethere no more colored signs up ..it's deeper than the surface folks.
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HonestBrother
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April 25, 2006 at 8:08 AM
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quote: Originally posted by EbonyRose: quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: These male vs. female threads have mostly stopped being interesting to me... but for some reason I need to keep this one going
I wish I could help you, HB, but I'm on your side! So, scooch over, Black Viking!!
I feel like this thread has got to be a brotha's last stand... time to put the foot down ... If we don't have the last word on this one - as good as the brotha in this video is - then we've failed to adequately speak up for ourselves... This is about representin'...
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bigddouble
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April 25, 2006 at 8:12 AM
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quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: quote: Originally posted by EbonyRose: quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother: These male vs. female threads have mostly stopped being interesting to me... but for some reason I need to keep this one going
I wish I could help you, HB, but I'm on your side! So, scooch over, Black Viking!!
I feel like this thread has got to be a brotha's last stand... time to put the foot down ... If we don't have the last word on this one - as good as the brotha in this video is - then we've failed to adequately speak up for ourselves... This is about representin'...
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LovNThySoul
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April 25, 2006 at 10:29 AM
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quote:
I feel like this thread has got to be a brotha's last stand... time to put the foot down ... If we don't have the last word on this one - as good as the brotha in this video is - then we've failed to adequately speak up for ourselves...
This is about representin'...
I hear that. I think that the message has to keep being said and don't let up off of it. A person unwilling to better themselves or even recognize their own flaws is not a person you want to be with. That can go male or female.
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G2099
D5 · 2 Forum Posts
April 25, 2006 at 12:30 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Rowe: quote: Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Rowe, you're not a man... You have no idea what we face from women...
Well, Brother Honestbrother, I don't want to play this blame game with you all night, because ultimately, that's what this video seeks to do: Put the blame for why Black relationships are not working all on Black women, but, I am a woman, and every woman that I've known who has ever made a complaint about her relationship had legitimate reasons to complain, very good reasons. Never was she crying just be crying about nothing. In fact, most Black women would love to be in a relationship where they would not have a lot of nonsense to deal with.
I am a man and if all men would stop taking all of their frustrations with the world out on the black woman, marriages/relationships would last.
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No Longer a Dog
D5 · 1 Forum Post
April 25, 2006 at 12:37 PM
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Black women are hardly satisfied in any situation. If you buy them a house, they want a bigger 1; you give them a car they want a better 1. This skit was just case study #2010 on how a black women was not satisfied. Yes, I know that they did not show what issues the brotha had and it made him look as if he did everything right and had it going on. But no matter how hard a black man tries, the black women still wants more. That is why we go after white women because they will be satisfied at some point. The relationships that do last are when the women accepts that her man is not perfect and tries his best. If black women would learn to settle for the best that their man can give instead of all that they want they you would not have to worry about us dating white women!
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G2099
D5 · 2 Forum Posts
April 25, 2006 at 12:40 PM
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quote: Originally posted by LEE SLAUGHTR:
First of I will say this what I've learned in my 34 years of living is that black people as a whole have serious fucking problems wether it's us sticking together or simply serious issues like this that will draw fire among black men and women.One thing I can say is alot of black women do have internal issues that they need to get some help for because in the long run none of your relationships are going to work out if past issues keep getting directed toward the new man.whoever the woman on this blog said that in fact black women have a reason to complain right and so do black men so what's your point.Brothers always have been put in aposition where we have to hear black women talking shit about us cackling with their girlfriend.moma.grandma whoever but let a good man enterthe door and alot of you all do not know how to act,but let a cruddy brother in and as always he gets the bigger end of the stick always because alot of you feel you need to stay with this crud ball but let a good brother make one mistake and he's punished for life.Those are are just a touch of the situations I can speak on all day everyday but without a doubt black men and black women need to find a common ground of respect among our race toward each other but when you have a society run on so much propaganda, and based on looks and bullshit this movie only will be a ignored situation just like everything else in the black community and if alot of you are not used to that fact by now well what more is there to talk about.I will say this black men have been getting there ass kicked for years and it's time you black sisters deal with your self issues and cut out the oscar nomination for best drmatic actor it's a headache.All black women are not the same so I wil not put you all in the same boat even though you do it to black men.All in all I love my black woman but it needs to be an end to the killing every blackman bullshit all of us are not the same.I personally don't like interacial marriages but to each dumb one his own.Even when I see a blck woman witha white man they seem to extra quite a bit throwing in our face like they have achieved society's greatest man,and brothers in sports and the coporate world do it too.the black race simply has face value issue we need to destroy untill that day comes confusion will run rampant anyway and no matter what we say or do it will not change.Dr.King has been gone for a minute what real part of his dream really took full surface what becaus ethere no more colored signs up ..it's deeper than the surface folks.
As a black man, I feel that the black woman has been carrying the black family for decades. The internal issues they have are dealing with the black man's issues. If the white man comes down on a brother, he comes down on his lady. Is that fair??? Some of my black brothers have told me that they are looking for am easy life. One where they can take out their frustrations on the woman and she would not be upset. Sounds like they are looking for a pet dog. As you know, if you kick a dog, he/she will come back again and again!
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kuumbaman
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April 25, 2006 at 1:59 PM
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There are many stories out there. There are many versions of what dynamics make up a relationship. This is just one. We all know The Huxibles weren't reflective of us all of black America (or white America, really). This story has as much of a need to be shared as any.
Like the man said, the lady in the car could just as well be a kind, nurturing, good-spirited Sista', who is open to whatever their synergy leads them to. We have many black women of that disposition. Why can't he reject all that is destined to be toxic to his life? He has the right to do so.
This is the one life this man is going to have. He chooses to travel through it conscious of the fact that there really is no time to waste in petty drama. Time is life, every minute of it. He is even concerned that his daughter knows the difference.
In this story he is the one trying to be in the right. The sisters sitting around drinking would not have time to be critical, if they were out somewhere trying to serve humanity. They choose to sit there waiting for an opportunity to meet with adversity. Don't they have their own goals and direction in life? If you live, limited by hand-outs, you are left with little control of you destiny.
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Huey
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April 25, 2006 at 2:22 PM
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Even a kicked dog, white, black or brown, will snap back at you if it's been kicked one too many times.
Lee does have a point that plenty of non-thuggish black men who have no aspirations of going to prison, could mess up one time and that woman won't have nothing to do with him (as if that good man is no longer good anymore), but will bend over backwards like Neo in "The Matrix" for the Jackass Flavor of the Month boyfriend and take his crap, until his crap is old hat and exchange for another jackass.
I'm tired of black women being mistreated by men of all races (including mine), as if they have to take it. But at the same time, I'm tired of decent black men who catch hell the minute we walk in the door, and being treated like some obedient eunuch because we actually show love, like it's against the law for a man to return love to a woman.
I too feel like this is "A last stand"; sometimes we don't want to as non-doggish black men, but we're practically backed into a corner as far as expressing ourselves, like that kicked dog. Sooner or later, one of us will pull out the F-U card out of the deck.
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