Empty fullness (purnata) nice name.

These catagories you listed are developed by racists. You would have a difficult time telling a "Congoid" that he or she is not black African as the congo is in Africa. The european has done everything to hide the fact that the sacred technology he uses for the mind control of its citizens and economics is stolen from Africans and used incorrectly.

jesus is just another debased image. Horus with the name and complexion changed. Horus' myth with the sexiness and the magic removed. Egypt with the invocations taken out. typical euro-ruler behavior.

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Empty fullness (purnata) nice name.

Thanks! I have another name at the Wikipedia forum that's a similar paradoxical moniker, Full Shunyata ("Shunyata" Sanskrit for "Emptyness" or "Voidness").

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These catagories you listed are developed by racists. You would have a difficult time telling a "Congoid" that he or she is not black African as the congo is in Africa.

Yes, I agree that they were originally developed by racists. Originally it was thought that there were only 3 races in the world (White, Black and Asian) and that everyone could be fitted into one of the "Big 3" races.

Those terms are still used in the scientific community, but they are quite nuanced. "Congoid" does not mean "Black" any more than "Caucasoid" means White. These terms denote area of origin more than they do skin color or ethnicity. "Caucasoid" just means people who originate from around the Caucasus Mountain Range in Southerncentral Europe and Asia Minor. That category includes Europeans, Central Asians and Semites (even though the latter two are not White). The latter two are classified as "Caucasoid" simply because the Middle East and Central Asia is located around the Caucasus Mountain range, it doesn't mean they are "trying to be White". White people were really the last race to develop, Eastern Europeans evolved from Central Asians, and Western Europeans evolved from Eastern Europeans.

Afro-Asiatic (so-called "Hamitic") peoples are classified as "Congoid" (or "Negroid") even though they are not Black. They are classified as "Congoid" because they originate from around the Congo area in Northern Africa. The North African Berbers had some Black features, but weren't "Black" in the sense that West Africans were, they were/are an evolutionary interstage between Black Africans and Central Asians/Semites (they have some Central Asian features along with Black features).

Sorry for the confusion on the racial terms. In modern anthropology, those terms are mostly denotations of area of origin rather than "race". In fact, typical "Caucasoid" features include brown skin, full lips, straight/wavy hair and rounded eyes. White people on fit 2 of those features, White people are actually very strange Caucasoids, which is why it is BS that American Whites call themselves "Caucasians".

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The european has done everything to hide the fact that the sacred technology he uses for the mind control of its citizens and economics is stolen from Africans and used incorrectly.

You know I agree. I've always said that Europeans only became successful off of the backs of those they colonized. The reason Europeans began exploring in the first place was because they were technologically/economically/socially behind the Middle East, the Far East and East/North Africa. There is a reason the Moors were so successful in Southern Spain and why the Northern Spanish Whites were so behind.

Colonization was only possible because the Europeans copied war technology from North and East Africa, and stole gunpowder from the Chinese. The Europeans advanced only because they innovated on already existing war technology and used it to conquer other nations and suck up their economy and wealth.

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jesus is just another debased image. Horus with the name and complexion changed. Horus' myth with the sexiness and the magic removed. Egypt with the invocations taken out. typical euro-ruler behavior.

Yep, the Greeks, the British and the French are responsible for that.

Dont leave out the germans and the belgians.

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Dont leave out the germans and the belgians.

Yep, them too. All of these greedy bastards carved up Africa as well as the rest of the world.

They did the worst number on Africa, Africa has been sacked so bad that all that remains of most of our ancient cities and civilizations are nothing more than ruins and artifacts.

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Originally posted by Melesi:
Yes, but that's not the point. What did he look like?

From: http://www.biblehistory.com/1.htm

Jesus was born of a Jewish mother, was raised in the Jewish culture of the time and must have looked like the people of the times. Not one of his associates ever wrote down a word describing his personal appearance or anything that would have set him apart physically from everyone else. Any picture or likeness of Him is the product of man's imagination. However, there is one debated reference in Isaiah, chapter 53 that deserves consideration. Many feel Isaiah 53:2 gives a physical description of Jesus as the Suffering Messiah to come. It reads, "...He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him." NIV
Scholars argue whether the chapter is a prophecy regarding the coming Messiah or a prophecy of the terrible suffering the Jews would undergo in their future. Whatever conclusion you come to, it does seem to fit that Jesus' appearance would intentionally be one that did not attract people because of His physical attributes. Probably, Jesus was not ten feet tall and the most handsome man in all of Israel. Such an idea would be contrary to a principle God laid down in 1 Samuel 16:7 when God explained how He chose David to be king, "...for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart." If there was any attractiveness of Jesus, it would be the attractiveness of His character and His Spiritual presence.
Also there was the false belief that the Old Testament had a prohibition against the creation of images. This restricted the making of either pictures or statues. However, the Old Testament did not oppose art. God commanded Moses to make a serpent of brass, and Solomon's temple was decorated with all kinds of beautiful art handiwork. Probably because of the early Christian's misunderstanding of image making, we find no trace of an artistic depiction of Christ prior to the time of King Constantine (died 337 A.D.) Instead, Jesus was symbolically portrayed as a shepherd, a lamb, a fisher, or most often as the symbol of a fish. The anagram Ichthys (fish) is discussed in chapter 29.
The earliest known picture of Christ is found in the catacombs as part of the picture portraying the resurrection of Lazarus. Dated to the middle of the 2nd century, Jesus is represented in a Roman type tunic, beardless, with short hair and large eyes. This is the oldest representation preserved anywhere. The location is called the Cappella Greca (Greek Chapel)
In the earliest known Christian house-church at Doura Europus on the upper Euphrates there is a painting of Jesus dating to about 240 A.D. In the painting, Christ, a beardless young man is dressed in a tunic.
There is also as description of the physical appearance of Christ in a letter of Publius Lentullus, "President of the People of Jerusalem"(no such office existed) who supposedly wrote a letter to the Roman Senate discussing Jesus. This letter is not authentic and can be traced no earlier than the fourth century, however, it had an important effect on pictures that have been painted of Christ. The letter says, "His hair is of the color of wine, and golden at the root; straight, and without lustre, but from the level of the ears curling and glossy, and divided down the centre after the fashion of the Nazarenes. His eyes are blue, and extremely brilliant..."

Please note the reference above, "after the fashion of the Nazarenes" is looked upon as a misstatement that should read "Nazarites." By definition a Nazarite was a person from among the Jews who took strict religious vows such as to neither to cut his
hair or to drink wine.
Why a Nazarite Vow?
John the Baptist was a Nazarite. This meant in special dedication to God, he would abstain from all grape products, leave his hair uncut and refrain from approaching any dead body (see Numbers 6:2-5). Jesus grew up in a small town called Nazareth. Inhabitants of Nazareth were referred to negatively as being Nazarenes. Jesus was a Nazarene but not a Nazarite. Some commentators have mistakenly said Jesus was a Nazarite, but in Luke 7:34 we read otherwise, "The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!" The point is, artists, sculptures and painters have represented Jesus as looking like a Nazarite. Having long hair parted in the middle and a beard. The problem is, Greeks and Romans of that era had short hair and clean shaven faces. Reference is given above to the representation of Jesus in the Catacombs "Capella Greca." Also there are the words of the Apostle Paul, "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" 1 Corinthians 11:14.
What did Jesus look like? No one knows. The best definition I have seen is displayed on the walls of the Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth. There displayed are mosaics of Jesus as seen through the eyes of peoples from all over the earth. Jesus is black, brown, yellow, red and white. As you walk through this gallery you realize again that His strong spiritual presence and unsurpassed magnetic beauty of character far exceed any physical appearance we may imagine Him to have. The Bible says because of His message of hope for the hopeless, multitudes followed him and forsook everything to be His disciples. The same man and His message still attracts millions today.


Two issues:

Are all white people oppresseors of black peoples?

Suppose Jesus is white as snow( he is not, but for illustration) and one is standing before HIM. Are you going to spend a eternity in a place that is seperated from anything "good", because Jesus is white?

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Empty fullness (purnata) nice name.

These catagories you listed are developed by racists. You would have a difficult time telling a "Congoid" that he or she is not black African as the congo is in Africa. The european has done everything to hide the fact that the sacred technology he uses for the mind control of its citizens and economics is stolen from Africans and used incorrectly.

jesus is just another debased image. Horus with the name and complexion changed. Horus' myth with the sexiness and the magic removed. Egypt with the invocations taken out. typical euro-ruler behavior.

Say "thank you" and kiss your wife again Fagunwa, because times are very hard these days, to find someone who even allows their brain to think this. She is a lucky woman, and sometimes I think I was born in the wrong era AND place(although I would have to mix match both), but I know I was not, my duty is just a lonely one sometimes. No jealousy, just admiration... at least I have an example to follow. Olodumare bless you both.

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Originally posted by Empty Purnata:

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Dont leave out the germans and the belgians.

Yep, them too. All of these greedy bastards carved up Africa as well as the rest of the world.

They did the worst number on Africa, Africa has been sacked so bad that all that remains of most of our ancient cities and civilizations are nothing more than ruins and artifacts.

Yes, Empty Purnata, they did carve up Africa. But just prior, they carved up Jesus.

OA
My sister you are a straight up soldier much love and respect always. If we were home you'd be wife 1a but wifey is from Brooklyn, NY and she don't play that!


Sis I know what you're talking about we seem to be going backwards! It is hard to believe how many of our people here and in our home land are falling for this foolishness. I use the oriki that Sunny Ade made into a song to maintain. Here you go...


"Ori mi ye o, ja ja fun mi (spirit of my head, fight fight for me) Eda mi ye o, ja ja fun mi ase (Creator please fight fight for me. may it be so).

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Yes, Empty Purnata, they did carve up Africa. But just prior, they carved up Jesus.[/QUOTE]

Yes Iam they (Set) are still carving Osiris up. They remove the sacredness of the female womb by making "mary" (Isis) just the vessel while leaving out the depth of the message, That even "your god" had to be manifested via ODU (sacred womb) while still relegating the woman to being an "empty vessel" how can this be true when Osiris' penis was not found in some versions?

And we black men participate in the degredation of our women, calling them freaks and b*tches, treating them like they are less than the mothers of the planet. Yes we are now participants with them in the carving up of Osiris not realizing what we are truly carving up is our own future. It will be generations before we recover from the dumbness if the hip-hop n*gga. The sell-out coon leaders. The xtian and the muslim.

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Yes Iam they (Set) are still carving Osiris up. They remove the sacredness of the female womb by making "mary" (Isis) just the vessel while leaving out the depth of the message, That even "your god" had to be manifested via ODU (sacred womb) while still relegating the woman to being an "empty vessel" how can this be true when Osiris' penis was not found in some versions?

I found Osiris'/Ausar's penis!(lol)

Obelisk of Luxor (Paris)

In the center of the Place de la Concorde, stands the Obelisk of Luxor, wich was given by the viceroy of Egypt, Muhammad Ali, to France in 1829. The obelisk is 22,83 m high, has a weight of 230 tons and is made of pink granite. Before its present position it marked the entrance to the Amon temple at Luxor, and is decorated with hieroglyphics exalting the reign of the pharao Ramesses II.
So that future generations would be reminded of the effort it required to install the oblisk here in 1836, the procedure, including the mechanical devices that were used, are portrayed on the pedestal.

The Place de la Concorde, was for a periode called the Place de la Révolution and held in its center the guillotine that was used to behead the royal family during the french revolution.


Obelisk of the Vatican (Vatican city state)

In the years of the first decades, the emporer Caligula (37-41 AC) ruled the mighty roman empire. From Egypt he brought a great stone obelisk to the Circus Nero in Rome. It is 25 m high and has a weight of 327 ton.
As time passed, the obelisk was forgotten, and lay half-buried only 250 m from the Vatican. In 1586, when the St. Peter's Basilica was being built, Sixtus V ordered that the obelisk be moved to the centre of the square. The reason Sixtus wanted a symbol from another religion inside the holy city was because "Too many Christians have been martyred in the shadow of that stone. St. Peter himself died there."


Cleopatra's needles (London and New York)

The obelisks dates from 1468 BC and originally stood in Heliopolis, together called Cleopatra's needles. In 10 BC the emperor Augustus had them transported to Alexandria and erected before the temple of Julius Caesar, the Caesarium.
The Obelisks were constructed for Tuthmose III and are carved with hieroglyphics praising Tuthmose and commemorating his third sed festival. Later inscriptions were added by Ramesses II to commemorate his victories.
The name Cleopatra's Needles is a romantic invention, as the obelisks are not connected to her at all.

London
The London obelisk was a gift from the Viceroy of Egypt, Muhammad Ali, to the British people in 1819 in recognition of Nelson's victory over the French fleet at the Battle of the Nile in 1798 but it took until 1879 before the monument was erected at its present location on the Victoria Embankment right by the Thames River.
The obelisk is 21 m high, has a weight of 187 ton and is made of red granite.

New York
The New York City obelisk was presented as a gift to America in 1869 by Muhammad Ali after the opening of the Suez canal, in the hope of stimulating economic investment in his country. In mid 1880 the onelisk arrived in New York and it took until january 1881 to move it to its present location inside Central Park.
The obelisk is 21 m high, has a weight of 193 ton and is made of red granite.

http://www.geocities.com/pharaos_world/egypt/pyramid_obelisk.html
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Obelisk arrives back in Ethiopia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4458105.stm


Ethiopians will be celebrating for more than a week

The first section of a 1,700-year old stone obelisk looted by Italy nearly 70 years ago has arrived back in Ethiopia.
The Axum obelisk is regarded as one of Ethiopia's national religious treasures.

An Antonov plane landed on Tuesday with the middle part of the obelisk; the top and bottom should follow within a week.

Italian troops seized the obelisk in 1937 and took it to Rome, where it has remained ever since, despite a 1947 UN agreement to return it to Ethiopia.


The plane carrying the first part of the obelisk appeared over the horizon just before dawn.


A crowd of Ethiopian ministers, priests and other VIPs cheered and clapped as it landed.

AXUM OBELISK
1,700 years old
Weighs 160 tons
24m tall
Looted in 1937
Return costing $7.7m

Due to be re-erected in September
"I am excited, overjoyed and delighted," said Ethiopian Culture Minister Teshome Toga.

"This is a very historical moment for us, we have waited so long to have the obelisk back," he said.

Pealing bells and chanting priests could be heard from a nearby cathedral, reports the AP news agency.

The ornately decorated 24-metre (78ft) obelisk is regarded as an outstanding example of architecture from the ancient city of Axum, itself seen as one of the four great kingdoms of the ancient world.

It stood for years outside the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organisation in Rome, despite an Italian commitment to send it back to Ethiopia.

Celebrations planned

It was eventually dismantled by Italian experts in 2004 in readiness for its journey home.

The operation is costing Italy an estimated 6m euros ($7.7m).




Ethiopians celebrate return
Obelisk points to past glory

But the obelisk's return had been beset by "technical difficulties" and repeatedly postponed.

The most recent delay came just last week, when it was postponed "indefinitely" amid concerns that the airstrip at Axum could not handle the cargo plane.

The 160-ton monument had to be broken into three pieces.

The delay was a disappointment for Ethiopians and the country's government, which had planned a national celebration to mark the return of the obelisk.

Shortly after the obelisk's return, traditional dancers took to the streets of Axum to celebrate.

The obelisk will be re-erected after the rains in September.

Many Ethiopians see the obelisk as a vital national symbol, and the prospect of its return stirs strong emotions.

Abebe Alenayehu, 81, watched Italian troops seize the obelisk from Axum, but never expected to be alive to witness its return.

"The memory still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth," he told the Associated Press news agency.

"Every day for the last 67 years I have thought about the obelisk."

Steel bars

Lattanzi, the Italian company responsible for transporting the obelisk to Axum, has described the obelisk as the largest, heaviest object ever transported by air.

Heaters were installed in the plane to protect the monument from freezing air temperatures.

The obelisk was wrapped in steel bars to stabilise it in case of turbulence during the six-hour flight, Lattanzi director Simone Pietero told AP.


In addition, the airstrip at Axum had to be upgraded to handle the vast Antonov-124 aircraft, and radar was installed.




The Axum obelisk was in Rome for 68 years


Ethiopians greeted the dawn arrival with cheers

Oh my! OA I'm just speechless. It's so big.

ok Oshun, Now if you keep showing those pictures of the obelisk 'scattered' throughout the globe, I'm going to start thinking that the Ausar and Auset strory was prophetic...

wait a minute...

too late.

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:

Yes, Empty Purnata, they did carve up Africa. But just prior, they carved up Jesus.[/QUOTE]

Yes Iam they (Set) are still carving Osiris up. They remove the sacredness of the female womb by making "mary" (Isis) just the vessel while leaving out the depth of the message, That even "your god" had to be manifested via ODU (sacred womb) while still relegating the woman to being an "empty vessel" how can this be true when Osiris' penis was not found in some versions?

And we black men participate in the degredation of our women, calling them freaks and b*tches, treating them like they are less than the mothers of the planet. Yes we are now participants with them in the carving up of Osiris not realizing what we are truly carving up is our own future. It will be generations before we recover from the dumbness if the hip-hop n*gga. The sell-out coon leaders. The xtian and the muslim.[/QUOTE]
As to the conception of jesus, that was divine interception.
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The rest of your post is BRUTALLY truthful. Only a few times in my life have I ever reffered to another human being as B---h, once I said C--t, and never a racial remark. I am not coming off as a do-gooder. I know what anger can do. Some people are a little better equipped to deal with it than others.

Divine interception? Please explain.

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Divine interception? Please explain.

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Matt1:18-25, The Birth of Jesus the Messiah
18Now this is how Jesus the Messiah was born. His mother, Mary, was engaged to be married to Joseph. But while she was still a virgin, she became pregnant by the Holy Spirit. 19Joseph, her fiance, being a just man, decided to break the engagement quietly, so as not to disgrace her publicly.
20As he considered this, he fell asleep, and an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream. "Joseph, son of David," the angel said, "do not be afraid to go ahead with your marriage to Mary. For the child within her has been conceived by the Holy Spirit. 21And she will have a son, and you are to name him Jesus,[a] for he will save his people from their sins." 22All of this happened to fulfill the Lord's message through his prophet:



23
"Look! The virgin will conceive a child!
She will give birth to a son,
and he will be called Immanuel[b]
(meaning, God is with us)."

24When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord commanded. He brought Mary home to be his wife,
25but she remained a virgin until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus.


It was Yahweh who divinley ( super natural) placed HIS seed in Marys womb.

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Oh my! OA I'm just speechless. It's so big.

P.S. I am(a clueless missionary)...I could have sworn the Hebrew word that was mistranslated as 'Virgin' more appropriately translates as 'young maiden' according to Hebrew scholars... But since plagerization from earlier mythos, and rediculous amounts of editing doesn't bother your ilk, mistranslations wouldn't either I suppose.

Also, since the Hebrew word that means Holy Ghost/Spirit is a feminine one, does that mean that the X-tian conception story implies something very different than what is popularly taught by Western X-tianity?

That darn devine femine just keeps popping up everywhere doesn't she?

OA

You better be careful with that sacred feminine stuff don't you see what they are setting up for Dan Brown? He wrote a book of quarter truths with a truthful central idea so they wouldn't kill his behind, and they called out the calvary on his tail! They'll still sell it though. Hey money talks we'll kick your tail later on.

IAM

There is more in that book you quote than you know. When I was in school we were taught the "art and science" of biblical interpretation. It was called Hermeneutics. One of the rules was "a scripture cannot have a different meaning for you today than it had for the folks it was originally revealed to." Respectfully you and others need to have better context and study of your so-called canon.

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Fagunwa--There is more in that book you quote than you know...Respectfully you and others need to have better context and study of your so-called canon.

Your words of enlightenment hit a high note with me, Fagunwa. I know it is European and Western Scholars who seek to continue to conceal the lies and propagate the untruths in the biblical stories...

A huuuuuge portion of the blaq collective here refuse to take a magnifying glass and really examine this book of control. Truth be told that is what it is!

This book has traveled unchallenged down thru the centuries and its so-Called authenticity outweighs its contradictions, mistransliteations, transpositions, concealments and ommissions--and this is where the book of books grows legs and walks...

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MBM--Anyone find it a bit, well, _odd_ that we have "bought" a savior (sold to us by our oppressor) that is in the image of our oppressor?

I find it not only odd but racist. The whitewash over, however, started long before our enslavement saga, but was used to tweek and justify our involuntary exodus from Africa!

Sadly, many, black churches ["still"] have an image of a white Jesus hanging in their church sanctuaries.

And regrettably, the majority of black churches ["still"] continue to preach the "lying lore of christianity via the European mindset, and do not protest or question the whitewash over--so I'd say that pretty much sums up the the fact that they've bought into the scam "...that is, the image of our oppressor..." --hook, line and sinker...on a subscious level, if not consciously.

These I proclaim, are our "dark ages". Until we as a group, collectively come into the light of truth, that is....!

Adupe pupo Sister Fine. I wish I knew where I stole this quote from;

"A child worships other peoples deities. He banishes those that belong to him. He despises his heritage and offers sacrifice to foreign deities. But one can only receive favors from ones own deities. One's families deities deserve to be worshipped". How can the immensity called "god" only be revealed to various cultures in one way?


I don't get into these xtian discussions anymore because I don't give a damn about the bible or xtianity, they are not a part of my life. I do not examine life through the prism of western understanding. In my opinion as long as africans worship in a xtian or muslim way we will always take less from earth. Our entire way of life is backward. This is a fear based way of life hence the need for an artificial feeling of control. Control of woman, control of cultures it's ridiculous, we control nothing but what and how we think, and that control we have surrendered to our slavemaster.

This was in our ancestors cases not always by choice, it's genesis was fear based and it's continuance is also fear based. I salute my people who through trial and tribulation fight to throw off fear and embrace our common ancestors once again. No matter which african way you choose. You are entitled to all because you posess all by blood.

Speaking of Divine Interception, the allegory of Jesus' "divine birth" point to the Holy Spirit having a decidedly feminine character! Check it out, this Messianic Jewish website makes a very good biblical case about the Holy Spirit's feminine gender:

http://www.tntrevealed.org/radioshow.cfm?c=27&l=33

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You see, the Ruach haKadosh (the Holy Spirit) was resting upon Miriam (Mary), and Yahuweh, the Most High God, was overshadowing her.

The Ruach haKadosh (Holy Spirit) “rested upon” Miriam (Mary) - no doubt to place Her egg in Miriam’s (Mary’s) womb, and Yahuweh no doubt “overshadowed her” to cause that egg to be fertilized.

The position of the Father to the Ruach haKadosh (the Holy Spirit) is also consistent with the most common position of a man with his wife during intimacy.

And in this case, Miriam (Mary), with her pure, undefiled, virgin womb, was being used as the concubine, or “surrogate mother“ if you will, through which Yahuweh, and the Ruach haKadosh (Holy Spirit), would bring forth their Son into this world in human form.

In much of the early Church, the Holy Spirit was believed to be feminine.

EMPTY FULLNESS

You betta be careful boy! Don' chu know we don' llow no woman upliftin' up in heah? Or can I try it this way " the problem is that you really didn't read carefully what the author said. Don't allow your logical progression to interfere with god. Allow me to ellighten you with my calm intellect. The problem is you really cannot see the truth of god with your limited understanding as the scripture says "lean not on your own understanding". Can you see it now?

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Originally posted by Fagunwa:
Adupe pupo Sister Fine. I wish I knew where I stole this quote from;

"A child worships other peoples deities. He banishes those that belong to him. He despises his heritage and offers sacrifice to foreign deities. But one can only receive favors from ones own deities. One's families deities deserve to be worshipped". How can the immensity called "god" only be revealed to various cultures in one way?


I don't get into these xtian discussions anymore because I don't give a damn about the bible or xtianity, they are not a part of my life. I do not examine life through the prism of western understanding. In my opinion as long as africans worship in a xtian or muslim way we will always take less from earth. Our entire way of life is backward. This is a fear based way of life hence the need for an artificial feeling of control. Control of woman, control of cultures it's ridiculous, we control nothing but what and how we think, and that control we have surrendered to our slavemaster.

This was in our ancestors cases not always by choice, it's genesis was fear based and it's continuance is also fear based. I salute my people who through trial and tribulation fight to throw off fear and embrace our common ancestors once again. No matter which african way you choose. You are entitled to all because you posess all by blood.

You really need to find where you got that quote from...

BTW I never thanked you for the kind words earlier.

That's a penny's understanding in a billion dollar world.

Can't argue with that

You really need to find where you got that quote from...

BTW I never thanked you for the kind words earlier. [/QUOTE]

Your kiss is sweeter than honey....