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When Black people have and continue to be "victimized" by "RACISM", the lack of attention, accountability and responsibility to dealing with both the on-going impact of INSTITUTIONAL/STRUCTURAL RACISM and the inattention to rectifying the impact of RACISM PAST places an extra-added BURDEN on Black people who not only have to deal with their (our) own problems but the very problems (psychological, etc.) that no redress or compensation can address.

Distancing oneself from the OPPRESSIVE FORCES that are not likely to change and thus being on your own where your INTERNAL MANAGEMENT now takes absolute precedence over your standard of living achieved is one solution to your stated problem.

Redress of the past must be factored in with the LIKELIHOOD of receiving this and the OPPORTUNITY COST of focusing on this INSTEAD of using that time for FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

I am now of the opinion that REPARATIONS FOR THE PAST and HIGHLY DISCIPLINED AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING for the future are MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE - just as a person calling himself a "Islamic Christian" would be.

New lyrics, son... GET SOME!

ENTER JWC with a reference to PTSS.---Nmaginate

I am, indeed, a firm believer in the reality of that syndrome.

When read this thread, however, it did not occur to me.

It still doesn't...yet.

Clearly, there is an institutional racism burden being placed upon us.

It continue to have its greatest applied pressure as long as we provide the convenient platform of a 'bent back' for it to rest.

Standing up is the initial step, and the critical one.

PEACE

Jim Chester

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I am, indeed, a firm believer in the reality of that syndrome.

When read this thread, however, it did not occur to me.
It still doesn't...yet.

JWC, I spoke about the "extra-added BURDEN on Black people who not only have to deal with their (our) own problems but the very problems (***psychological***, etc.) that no redress or compensation can address."

Wouldn't PTSS be, first and foremost, a psychological consideration?


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Brothers Nmaginate and Constructive Feedback, you two were made for each other. It's obvious that you all are fueling each other's arguments. One person presents a problem and the other offers the same solution, again and again.

Don't you start with me, ROWE...

Ok, I'll stay out of it.

Happy New Year Everyone!

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Happy New Year Everyone!

Hey! GET OFF MY THREAD with that....


... The best to you, too, in the coming year!

JWC, I spoke about the "extra-added BURDEN on Black people who not only have to deal with their (our) own problems but the very problems (***psychological***, etc.) that no redress or compensation can address."

Wouldn't PTSS be, first and foremost, a psychological consideration?---Nmaginate

Yes, absolutely.

The syndrome is inherently psychological.

And...I agree that neither 'redress' nor compensation meet the need.

The syndrome is about us.

It has all the power we give it.

It dieds ONLY when we kill it.

We ARE the answer.

WE are the cure.

PEACE

Jim Chester

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Yes, absolutely.

The syndrome is inherently psychological.

And...I agree that neither 'redress' nor compensation meet the need.
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We ARE the answer.

WE are the cure.

Okay, then!

Now that you're with me on that... BECAUSE those/these psychological issues have their origin in something we did not create/start... Do you understand how that represents an EXTRA BURDEN that would not be there and an EXTRA DUTY, so to speak, we have to fulfill that's goes on top of our current, day-to-day INTERNAL issues.

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BECAUSE those/these psychological issues have their origin in something we did not create/start.

Hummmmm

How does a new born Black baby ACQUIRE this certain "psychological issue"? In the FREEDOM year of 2007 what forces are INDOCTRINATING Black children to take on this mantle of mental handicapped? Are WE, those who rock their cradles able to counteract this force via WHAT WE DO?


Some folks seem to be contented with the notion that "the origin is in something that we did not create/start". The fact that "THEY KNOW WHO DID IT" is enough of an appeasement to put aside REAL STUDY OF A "FIX".

The person who stands to benefit from the FIX is that same person who has this "condition". Thus it is logical that THE FIX be focused upon more than WHO MIGHT HAVE TO DO THE FIXING.

The process of seeking to ENFORCE LIABILITY, unchecked by the EVALUATION OF THE LIKELIHOOD OF RECEIVING REDRESS FROM THE SAME SOURCE THAT "DID IT" only means that the VICTIM will remain in this state for a longer period of time than he otherwise has to.

ADD TO THIS the comments of so many successful people that THE JOURNEY which lead to their development WAS MORE IMPORTANT than the "destination" that they had reached. For the mythic Black Functional Culture to be REESTABLISHED it must FIRST be formed by TRIAL AND ERROR that is conducted along the way. "Been there, done that, AIN'T DOING IT AGAIN because of the CONSEQUENCES" proves to be much more of a formative framework for character than some external force providing the VEHICLE for this for the sake of REPARATION for what they had done in the past. THEY control the strings that you are attempting to sever.

In the end N8 you lust after your knowledge of WHO DID THIS TO US more than your desire for a FIX, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO DO THE LIFTING.

Now that you're with me on that... BECAUSE those/these psychological issues have their origin in something we did not create/start... Do you understand how that represents an EXTRA BURDEN that would not be there and an EXTRA DUTY, so to speak, we have to fulfill that's goes on top of our current, day-to-day INTERNAL issues.---Nmaginate

I think I get your point of this syndrome being 'extra'.

The sysndrome is identifiably distinct in the array of things 'burden' us as a people.

I believe this is why it is so easy for me to go to that, as a seminal branch' of the overall repression we experience daily.

I say 'seminal' because I believe (and have identified it as such) it is the underpinning, even the lynchpin of the effectiveness of system's racial/color-construction.

Without it, I believe the system will literally unravel...to the consternation of European-Americans...

and African American-Americans...

and all others of African descendant.

PEACE

Jim Chester