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Well Norland,
"Who writes those laws for the "truly law abiding", Caucasians, God or the "god-like Caucasians?? by Norland The issue is not who writes the law, but rather laws are written to be respected. The U.S. Constitution is the Supreme Law of the U.S. Elected officials are sworn in under oath to serve the people. The Black community, specifically as applied to Black America's own elected leadership choose to be lawless, unAmerican, criminal, etc., to which should the Daryl Sweeneys of Black America end up in prison, such prison time is earned, and neither the Republican Party, nor Caucasian America are responsible for the criminal actions of Black America's own elected leadership! Sincerely, Michael Lofton |
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Well Norland,
"Who writes those laws for the "truly law abiding", Caucasians, God or the "god-like" Caucasians??" by Norland Caucasians Looking In On the Amen Corner! Sincerely, Michael Lofton |
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I think all politicians are misleading. Republican, democrat, independant, conservitives and yes even liberals. Listen to them, most dont have independant oppinons and when debating on certain topics answers are usually partisin. All they do is fight to stay on top or get to the top. I really dont think you can be a truthful elected politician because it is a dog eat dog profession. Everyone must stand firm with his or her party. When you ask a republican why we went to war somewhere in his/her response will be a comment like, what would the democrats have done. I have faith in none of them. Khalilallah made a statement that he has not been influenced by any living black leaders in his lifetime and I would have to say the same.
Power most definately is in the hands of the voter. We do have a responsibility to hold our elected afficials accountable but I dont see the unity in us to do so. We are our worst enemy. Yes, I do believe many of us have been conditioned and are caught in an on going cycle of defeat but we cant keep screaming for the "white man" or "any man for that matter" to come rescue us because we are dying waiting for that rescue. I spoke with a twenty years young man the other day and he had absolutely no belief in himself. At twenty he thinks the best thing for him to do to get ahead is get his next sack. I spoke with him about going to college or taking up a trade and he told me it would take to long. This was so depressing for me because the look in his eyes really outruled the thought of his doing something positive to get himself to the next level in life. I cant speak for all african americans in inner cities accross this country but most ghettos ar e the same. Our youth are lost and it has gotten to the point were I cant see a way out for them, I dont know if there is one because what they need comes from within. Before someone can put there life on track after falling off they must have the belief that they achieve that goal. How do you make someone love themselves aka believe in themselve? |
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Whatever you say, Mr. Lofton. I can't argue with you about California Black politician lawlessness. I'm 3,000 miles away and it's nothing I understand. All I know is California doesn't like its governor and you don't like Black anything. I do know that intense DISLIKE causes wars.
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Well, Norland,
"Whatever you say, Mr. Lofton. I can't argue with you about California Black politician lawlessness. I'm 3,000 miles away and it's nothing I understand. All I know is California doesn't like its governor and you don't like Black anything. I do know that intense DISLIKE causes wars." by Norland Like I have stated before unless you have rodents crawling all over you, you can only speak for Norland! As reality would have it contrary to your very baseless viewpoint, the individuals to which I have condemned with good reason don't even like themselves, because "Any Fool and His or Her Money or Future Soon Part"! Black elected leaders and their associates, apparently don't like themselves considering the blatant acts of greed, sleaze, and ignorance which all lead to a dead end! "2 on Water Board Accused of Extortion A congresswoman's son is arrested in a case linked to Carson political scandal. By Ted Rohrlich Times Staff Writer August 1, 2003 Building on a Carson corruption probe that has drawn guilty pleas from four public officials, federal agents arrested the son of U.S. Rep. Juanita Millender-McDonald (D-Carson) Thursday on charges of extorting kickbacks from contractors doing business with the government water agency he heads. R. Keith McDonald, president of the obscure but powerful West Basin Municipal Water District, was also charged in a separate alleged scheme with extorting tens of thousands of dollars from a bus company seeking a contract extension from Carson. In that case, McDonald is accused by a federal grand jury of ferrying bribe payments to three Carson City Council members who have since acknowledged receiving them. A second West Basin board member, Tyrone Smith, was also indicted by the grand jury for allegedly extorting $25,000 two years ago from an investment banker who stood to earn 10 times that much if a firm he was representing handled the refinancing of $140 million in West Basin debt. Both men face a nine- or 10-year prison term if convicted, said Assistant U.S. Atty. John Hueston, the government's lead prosecutor. McDonald, 39, was arrested at his Long Beach home and taken to U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, where he was freed on $200,000 bail. The sum was guaranteed by his mother, who agreed to put a $100,000 lien on her house. Millender-McDonald declined to comment on the charges facing her son, as did his lawyer, John Potter. Smith, 46, of Ladera Heights, remains at large, authorities said Thursday. West Basin is one of the largest water districts in California, serving close to 1 million residents in Malibu, Culver City, Inglewood, the South Bay beach cities, Carson and Gardena and on the Palos Verdes Peninsula. Its five elected board members work part time, representing 17 cities and some unincorporated areas, principally in southwest Los Angeles County. West Basin buys water from the giant Metropolitan Water District "” which imports supplies from the Colorado River and Northern California "” and sells it to local water companies. It also recycles sewage for industrial uses and landscape watering. Although boards such as West Basin's attract little attention from voters or the media, they are considered plum positions by many budding politicians. McDonald, who has served the water district since 1994, has lost two bids to succeed his mother in the state Assembly since she was elected to Congress in 1996. West Basin board members control a $100-million annual budget and hand out multimillion-dollar construction contracts to build pipelines, as well as water recycling and desalination plants. One of the largest, the Juanita Millender-McDonald Regional Recycling Plant, was named two years ago for the congresswoman. Keith McDonald was first elected to a four-year term on the board as part of a slate of water board candidates affiliated with former U.S. Rep. and current Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally (D-Compton). Dymally said he wanted to see more minority representation on boards traditionally dominated by whites. Dymally and McDonald are African American. West Basin board members enjoy such benefits as meeting attendance fees that averaged $15,000 last year, plus travel expenses that ranged from $5,000 to $38,000 per member last year, a board spokesman said. McDonald received a total of $20,000 last year, the lowest among board members. In addition, the members get monthly car allowances and medical and dental insurance that extends to family members. In the past, the West Basin district also provided reimbursement for tuition and the costs of foreign travel. McDonald lists his occupation as a venture capitalist with his own firm. Prosecutor Hueston described him as "a veteran and skilled extortionist who very carefully tried to cover the trail of his extortionate acts by putting intermediaries between himself and his victims." McDonald would pressure firms into writing checks to intermediaries who would then write checks to him, Hueston said. McDonald would then allegedly claim that the payments were for consulting work he had done for the intermediaries. McDonald came to Hueston's attention in late 2000 when Carson Councilman Manuel Ontal walked unbidden into the U.S. attorney's office in Santa Ana and confessed to having taken a bribe from McDonald. Ontal later agreed to work undercover for the government, providing the crucial break in what has become a widening probe of public corruption centered in Carson, a South Bay city of 90,000. Ontal told prosecutors that McDonald paid him $5,000 in cash after the councilman voted to turn aside a staff recommendation and award a $6.5-million, five-year extension of a public bus service contract to Transportation Concepts Inc., whose work had been criticized in an audit. The Irvine-based firm, the indictment says, had agreed to pay McDonald $120,000 if its contract was approved. McDonald planned to pay three Carson councilmen "” Ontal, Daryl Sweeney and then-Mayor Pete Fajardo "” $10,000 apiece, in two installments, and keep $90,000 for himself, the indictment says. Ontal has pleaded guilty to accepting that bribe and is awaiting sentencing. Fajardo has pleaded guilty to another charge: extorting $50,000 from the owner of a low-income senior citizen housing project in return for approval of a city grant that would have lowered the owner's mortgage. Sweeney, who succeeded Fajardo as mayor, pleaded guilty this week to conspiring to extort hundreds of thousands of dollars from waste haulers competing for another city contract. Former Carson Councilwoman Raunda Frank pleaded guilty earlier this year to extortion in the waste-hauling scheme. Their plea agreements call for them to cooperate with the government in ongoing investigations. Most of the charges involving the water board concern a company building $30 million worth of pipelines for West Basin recycling facilities. The indictment alleges that McDonald used a friend to approach the pipeline builder, Luster National Inc., with the message that the firm would have to pay to keep its job. Luster then paid McDonald $94,000 in 11 installments, funneling the payments through the friend's business, which paid McDonald, the indictment says. McDonald reported the money as consultant income on public disclosure statements. He personally demanded $23,313 more from Luster, the indictment alleges, and then used a different intermediary to conceal $30,000 in additional payments. He allegedly used a third intermediary to conceal the source of a $100,000 payment from Robert Dennis Pryce Jr., a lawyer who is awaiting trial in the corruption probe. Pryce is accused of serving as the middleman for former Mayor Sweeney in extorting payments from the waste haulers. It was not clear why the lawyer paid $100,000 to McDonald. Pryce, a U.S. Bankruptcy Court trustee, is also accused of abusing his position by demanding kickbacks from real estate firms handling the liquidation of debtor assets. The intermediaries cooperated with McDonald in the hope that he would "create lucrative contracting opportunities over time [through] his political reach in Southern California," Hueston said. None was charged. McDonald is also accused of making "a corrupt solicitation" by demanding that United Water Inc. of New Jersey, which had been awarded a five-year, $25-million contract to operate a West Basin recycling plant, make a $25,000 contribution to his Assembly race. When United Water refused to make the contribution, McDonald accused the firm of improperly doing its job and tried unsuccessfully to nullify its contract, Hueston said in federal court Thursday. Finally, McDonald is accused of demanding a $50,000 contribution for his Assembly race from the Furman Group, a public affairs firm under contract to West Basin. In return, McDonald allegedly promised to boost Furman's contract by at least $50,000, the indictment says. Furman also refused to pay, Hueston said, and retained its contract. Smith, the second member of the water board indicted, allegedly received his payoff from the New York-based investment banking firm of M.R. Beal & Co. The indictment says he also used an intermediary: Garland Hardeman, a former Inglewood city councilman who has pleaded guilty to attempting to arrange bribes from waste haulers for Carson city council members. Smith's indictment, unsealed Thursday, says Beal stood to make $250,000 if the West Basin board hired Rice Financial Products Co. of New York to handle the refinancing of the district's debt. Rice offered high returns at relatively high risk, while a competing firm "” Salomon Smith Barney "” proposed a lower-risk strategy that would produce less in savings. Smith extorted $25,000 from Beal in exchange for his vote to give the business to Rice, the indictment says. Before the deal was signed, the board decided to hire a financial advisor, which Smith selected, to negotiate with Rice. Last month, the water board sued the financial advisor, claiming that its poor counsel cost the public millions. Times staff writer Hilda Muñoz contributed to this report. Copyright 2003 Los Angeles Times" Sure pays to be ethical and law abiding. Those who choose to do the contrary will end up losing as described by the article above. Those who are truly ethical and law abiding have the potential to quash and arrest false accusations, etc., to which instead of being on the receiving end of punishment, in the final hour, should justice prevail, the victims have the potential to be compensated for such activity. A felon in a Daryl Sweeney or anyone of similar wrongdoing would not have a prayer of a chance to be compensated for criminal acts truly committed. Sincerely, Michael Lofton |
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Well, Michael Lofton,
Indictments do not equate to quilty and does not male you a felon. Will explain this piece of legality later which should end this once and for all... (Mr.Lorton: "As far as blaming others? Nope, not me. As for you, yep. You blame black America for the failure of your relatives failed political attempts." by Saladin Khalilallah Like always, another misstatement of fact. Unless you have rodents crawling all over you, you can only speak for yourself.) Is that so? I quess that a call to an exterminator is out? Or perhaps obtaining another job to increase the amount of money comming in to afford one? Or perhaps there is something else I don't know that your not telling us that would explain that remark? (Mr.Lorton: I do blame the unintelligent voters of Black America, for maintaining or promoting the sleazy, the greedy, and the incompetent, over other individuals of merit, which is very much a reality, which has absolutely nothing to do with any member of my immediate family.) Did you not say that your family members ran for office. I am under the suspician that this is where this all started. You are condemning an entire race, you are condemening a group of people that perhaps have their reasons for what they do, and perhaps you are correct about these politicians but to me, all of them are that way. (Mr.Lorton: Since you choose to speak for me, the information should be real, and not slanted to suit your viewpoint which is definitely not even close to anything that I have expressed.) Uh, no politician speaks for you, they speak for its constituents. Sometimes as you and I both no, there are no candidates that either of us can support, just to choose the lesser of two evils. Would you choose the white candidate that would look the other way when there is police injustice or a black one that is more likely to correct the problem? (Mr.Lorton: With respect to organizations, our community is saturated with ministers of sleaze, poverty pimps, the worthless NAACP, and other truly worthless organizations, to which in the final analysis, the Black community continues to be the most poverty stricken community or set of communities in the U.S.) WE AGREE!!!!!! (Mr.Lorton: .....So much for any good that can be associated with any organizations, be it the religious community or otherwise.) Agree again. This feels good. (Mr.Lorton: Elected officials are sworn in, and bound by law to serve the people, specifically as defined by mandated by law duties of all elected office holders to serve the people,) Yawn, yeah right... And our President should be very intelligent... (Mr.Lorton: specifically as it related to law abiding U.S. citizens. The NAACP, PUSH, SCLC, the many no good poverty pimping jack leg preachers are not bound by law to serve the people, thus your analogy as referenced has little relevancy.) No, you just did not read the two reply's correctly. It is not just some of the politicians but all of the organizations that should be making it so that government is not an issue. (Mr.Lorton: "In fact much of black America is so fed up with the system that they do not vote at all, only the hardcore supporters or traditional party members who vote the party line. That is what your dealing with. I think it is more so that whites perform more crimes but they look the other way, a black person who performs the same acts, they are instantly jumped on. That is the way it is. When most blacks experience it, as I have, not on a criminal level, they come to understand. The question is what are there crimes, what is there political record, what are their successes. Your desire is to defame black Americans and the elected officials. What do you hope to gain?" Saladin Khalilallah More so than any doing on my part, the individuals who fit the description defame, and disgrace themselves all by themselves, by their own actions or inactions to be ethical, responsible, moral, lawful, honorable, worthy of praise, etc.) What? (Mr.Lorton: Heck, a large segment of the Black male population can't vote because they have earned or unearned felony records.) Many due to poor legal representation. There are more blacks in jail than in college... (Mr.Lorton: Should any Black felon with an unearned criminal record petition his or her elected representative for redress for blatantly illegal atrocities of government within the Black community, the typical Black elected leaders: A. prefer to play games, or bend over backwards to serve the interests of the truly criminal over the rights of the truly law abiding. B. are spineless or lack any backbone to do the ethical or abide by the law. C. trash petitions for redress served by U.S. certified mail, to which legitimate petitions for redress fall on "deaf ears". ) So, all of them are? I am not one to ignore our own backyard, but I am one to try my best not to generalize. Some of my generalizations are right on the mark, the ones I am generalizing just do not know it yet. But I do know of some, "some" good black politicians. (Mr.Lorton: But here, again as presumed by the "Blame Caucasian America for Everything Corner", it is still all Caucasian America's fault, even when Black people in positions of responsibility,) Well, you know something. I am not one of them. I am also not one to blame it all on blacks. There is plenty of responsibility to go around. Whites with their part in the past of creating the society and the circumstances we are in and us blacks for not taking every opportunity to move foward. (Mr.Lorton: as applied to Black America's own elected officials, side step the essence of the meaning of what it means to be an elected official. Elected officials are public servants, who are sworn under oath to protect the U.S. citizenship rights of the truly law abiding to "Equal Justice and Protection Under the Law", should any jurisdiction of government blatantly violate legal authority to disparage the property rights or otherwise, as it relates to law abiding U.S. citizens.) Yawn, yeah perhaps you should be writing that Blacks should be Angels while Whites be whatever... The entire political process has a potential for corruption and race does not play a part. TO SETTLE THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL... By the way, indictments do not mean anything. You seem to be forgetting that people are innocent until proven guilty. A prosecutor can have a grand jury indict anyone> They only have to provide their side of the evidence and that is it. To my knowledge, a felon can not run for office... As fact, indictment does not make you a felon. Your entire statement is hereby irrelevant. (Mr.Lorton: Should the truly law abiding of Black America, be subjected to blatantly illegal search and seizure, blatantly illegal destruction of property rights, blatant destruction of family structure, on the part of police officers, court clerks, social workers, probation officers, and/or other public servants, to which the victim or victims petition any Black elected leader for redress, the typical Black elected leaders prefer to play games, and/or join the ranks of blatantly criminal public employees, rather than stand tall in the interest of the truly ethical and/or law abiding of Black America.) Then the opposing candidate, perhaps yourself, should let that be known. Just don't call them unintelligent. Run, your platform needs some tweaking but you can defintely make it. (Mr.Lorton: I understand the reason why many qualified individuals do not vote. The political process amounts to a popularity contest, in that worthless trash is voted in by the unintelligent voters of Black America, time and time again. However, to give up your right to vote is not the answer either. Elected officials who do not serve the people, specifically as it relates to truly law abiding U.S. citizens, in the event any government agency illegally violates the property rights of law abiding U.S. citizens, can be removed from office, should organized, and intelligent voters exercise their rights as citizens to promote the ideals of government to protect the best interest of any community concerned.) When none of the candidates have a history of serving the people and when the elected individual runs into a brickwall upon being elected by their collegues, what do you say then? Poloitics is not about serving the people, is about developing relationships to develop change or the status quo. Nothing more. That is why politics has frequently been considered a bad word. (Mr.Lorton: I suppose the many sacrifices made by Black war time veterans,) Such as myself... and/or others, who have risked their lives to defend the principles of government in the U.S., mean absolutely nothing to the so-called Black middle class, Nope, perhaps you are not paying attention to reality. Your ideals are clouding your judgement... (Mr.Lorton: since your belief is that elected officials have absolutely no responsibility to serve the people who elected them as mandated by law.) No, I am saying that throughout history, they never have and that we as a people need to make it so that governement is not an issue. (Mr.Lorton: As reality would have it, elected officials have a fiduciary duty to serve the people, specifically as it relates to truly law abiding U.S. citizens, no ands, ifs, buts, and/or other excuses, to do absolutely nothing to serve the people as mandated by law.) And in reality, they are self-serving and they are not breaking the law in doing so. This will always be the case as long as the entire political process takes care of those, such as yourself, who decides to rock their boat. It is a lose-lose situation for us to depend on politicians. I am dealing with the reality that you and I hate, you, on the other hand, deal with the failure of the ideals this country sells itself on. Conditional democracy. Regards, Saladin Khalilallah |
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Mr. Khalilallah,
By the way my name is Lofton and not Lorton! "Indictments do not equate to quilty and does not make you a felon. Will explain this piece of legality later which should end this once and for all..." by Saladin Khalilallah "Carson Mayor Daryl W. Sweeney pleaded guilty Tuesday to conspiring to extort hundreds of thousands of dollars from waste haulers competing for a $60-million city contract and pledged to cooperate with federal prosecutors probing other political corruption schemes in Southern California. Sweeney, 45, faces about 10 years in prison, which Asst. U.S. Atty. John Hueston said would set a record for a California public corruption case." The material as specified is directly from the article as published by the Los Angeles Times which means jail time is already in the works for former Carson Mayor Daryl Sweeney. As the reality of it surely speaks to, this has gone beyond the indictment stage, and former Carson Mayor Daryl Sweeney may soon be wearing "prison stripes", truly earned as opposed to being framed, set up, unjustly accused, etc. Former Carson Mayor Daryl Sweeney and his partners in crime do not deserve the "time of day", because neither of these individuals fall in the category of the truly oppressed of Black America. It makes sense to defend the truly innocent, individuals truly falsely accused. It is useless to defend or speak up in behalf of known misfits. It is certainly of more benefit to channel such energy to protect the rights of the truly innocent of Black America, as opposed to wasting valuable time, energy, and limited assets, defending the known criminals of Black America, criminals who have also betrayed the community of Black America itself. "Did you not say that your family members ran for office. I am under the suspician that this is where this all started. You are condemning an entire race, you are condemening a group of people that perhaps have their reasons for what they do, and perhaps you are correct about these politicians but to me, all of them are that way." Saladin Khalilallah In answer to your question, my immediate family members attempted to hold elected office, which is also supported by substantial court documented evidence, because as stated before Black America's own elected leadership, specifically as applied to the Democratic Party within the State of California, and/or those on the federal level, as applied to the U.S. Congress, choose to misrepresent or play games rather than serve the truly law abiding as sworn to under oath of office and as mandated by law. Under such a grave set of circumstances, truly innocent U.S. citizens, victimized by the atrocities of government, have little choice other than to seek political office to insure that government works for the people, as mandated by law. To Which the Foundation of the Principles of Government of the U.S. in the Declaration of Independence Also Support Should Any Elected Official Shirk His or Her Responsibility to Serve the People, no ands, ifs, or buts! My Dad had to go court to get his name on the ballot, because at that time unless a potential candidate had substantial financial backing, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars in assets, it was next to impossible to get your name on the ballot to run for the U.S. Congress. The U.S. Supreme Court of the United States of America, ruled in favor of my Dad, considering again the reality that Black America's own elected leaders have truly failed to represent the truly law abiding of Black America. Ironically, during this same time frame, the State Court of California had a "bench warrant" to arrest my Dad, which lacked merit through and through. In commemoration of my Dad, I include the following as presented at his funeral: "Dad you are one in a "Billion" My Dad, Leon E. Lofton, Jr., born January 16, 1918, expired July 16, 2003, is very dear to me. In my mind, Dad is the hero of all heroes. As a Black man he served his family honorably in every sense of the word. Both on and off the battlefield, Dad is one of the true "Buffalo Soldiers" who served the citizens of the United States of America honorably. University educated with many hours beyond a "Masters Degree", Dad has sacrificed much in the name of following the law, demanding that others do the same, challenging those who have crossed the line, in their quest to disparage the rights of the truly law abiding of America. It is without a doubt an honor and cherished privilege to be his eldest son, and to be a part of the legacy that he leaves with his family, and any others of like kinship and friendship. It is an honor to stand with you, support you, and endure the loss of my own personal liberty. The only regret that I have is that throughout this struggle on the part of my Dad and Mom, he never realized the benefit of his hard earned, well deserved sacrifices. It goes without saying that I will always admire, honor, and respect everything that he represented during his golden years on Earth. You are definitely a hard act to follow, because few men, have accomplished what you have accomplished to make the law of the United States of America work for every U.S. citizen, namely those of Black America who have been oppressed, disrespected, left out, etc. Farewell, Dad, the best friend that I have ever had in life and the hereafter. Love Always, Michael" It is certain that one day, both my Dad and Mom, will be honored in the U.S. history books. Although I've also been a part of this long transgression of events, my input has been to be the catalyst to support what I know to be right and just. This is as far as I will carry the conversation, to which there will be no further response. I'm not about to flip this script or change any of the material as previously referenced to please the ears and/or eyes of anyone, because the information as referenced is both factual and crystal clear. You are entitled to your viewpoint however erroneous the information may be. Sincerely, Michael Lofton |
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(Mr. Khalilallah,
By the way my name is Lofton and not Lorton!) Calm down, my apologies. I should respect the spelling of your name, especially since you have mine. Very rare... ("Indictments do not equate to quilty and does not make you a felon. Will explain this piece of legality later which should end this once and for all..." by Saladin Khalilallah "Carson Mayor Daryl W. Sweeney pleaded guilty Tuesday to conspiring to extort hundreds of thousands of dollars from waste haulers competing for a $60-million city contract and pledged to cooperate with federal prosecutors probing other political corruption schemes in Southern California.) And now they shall be out of office? Right? Are you saying that you knew that this person was a criminal from the start? (Sweeney, 45, faces about 10 years in prison, which Asst. U.S. Atty. John Hueston said would set a record for a California public corruption case." ) And Trafficant is currently in jail and plans on running for President. It is the politician's nature... (The material as specified is directly from the article as published by the Los Angeles Times which means jail time is already in the works for former Carson Mayor Daryl Sweeney. As the reality of it surely speaks to, this has gone beyond the indictment stage, and former Carson Mayor Daryl Sweeney may soon be wearing "prison stripes", truly earned as opposed to being framed, set up, unjustly accused, etc.) So, the voters knowing that he was going to commit this crime, voted him into office? Not likely. (Former Carson Mayor Daryl Sweeney and his partners in crime do not deserve the "time of day", because neither of these individuals fall in the category of the truly oppressed of Black America.) Are you saying that they are going to be elected to another term in office? If they do get elected then that means that the opponent is an idiot that could not get the voters support. (It makes sense to defend the truly innocent, individuals truly falsely accused.) For me to defend the voter? Well, I do sometimes call those that elected George Bush an idiot, so I may stand to be somewhat hypocritical... (It is useless to defend or speak up in behalf of known misfits.) These two examples where just waiting to make trouble, right? Tisk, tisk, tisk... (It is certainly of more benefit to channel such energy to protect the rights of the truly innocent of Black America, as opposed to wasting valuable time, energy, and limited assets, defending the known criminals of Black America, criminals who have also betrayed the community of Black America itself.) I am not that well informed of your previous posts. Are they eligible for re-election? Are they going to be re-elected? ("Did you not say that your family members ran for office. I am under the suspician that this is where this all started. You are condemning an entire race, you are condemening a group of people that perhaps have their reasons for what they do, and perhaps you are correct about these politicians but to me, all of them are that way." Saladin Khalilallah In answer to your question, my immediate family members attempted to hold elected office, which is also supported by substantial court documented evidence, because as stated before Black America's own elected leadership, specifically as applied to the Democratic Party within the State of California, and/or those on the federal level, as applied to the U.S. Congress, choose to misrepresent or play games rather than serve the truly law abiding as sworn to under oath of office and as mandated by law.) There you go, as I have said before, politics is a dirty game that manipulates the law in order to serve their own self interests. I am sure that they would of made a difference, but they could not do it alone, they can not rock the boat or else the police commissioner can easily set them up for a fall. Problem erased... (Under such a grave set of circumstances, truly innocent U.S. citizens, victimized by the atrocities of government, have little choice other than to seek political office to insure that government works for the people, as mandated by law.) No, they need to take advantage of the circumstances present and manipulate the law and media to their own advantage. To seek poltical office would do nothing more than cause that individual a headache, unless there is a total purge of the current political structure and the replacement with those of the same views... (To Which the Foundation of the Principles of Government of the U.S. in the Declaration of Independence Also Support Should Any Elected Official Shirk His or Her Responsibility to Serve the People, no ands, ifs, or buts!) Please, you and I know that you can say that as often as you like and you know that is not the case. Deal with reality, it is all about the campaign, and it is all about money. (My Dad had to go court to get his name on the ballot, because at that time unless a potential candidate had substantial financial backing, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars in assets, it was next to impossible to get your name on the ballot to run for the U.S. Congress.) There goes my money example... (The U.S. Supreme Court of the United States of America, ruled in favor of my Dad, considering again the reality that Black America's own elected leaders have truly failed to represent the truly law abiding of Black America.) They can not make a ruling based on the reasons you provided. (Ironically, during this same time frame, the State Court of California had a "bench warrant" to arrest my Dad, which lacked merit through and through.) For getting on a ballot, oh, there goes my example of poolitics at work... With respect to you and your father, he is a hero. However that still does not change the fact that not all black elected leaders are potential criminals. These individuals stand side by side with Marion Barry and that Senator from Ohio. Your gripe is with the American political process. Knowing that you said that you will not offer further responses, I just want to let you know that my responses are not intended to belittle your father's plight. A truly magnificent politician would know their audience, play the game and trick the establishment into providing its constituents what they need. |
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And Lofton, you can only speak for Lofton, which you do very well. If I did have rodents crawling all over me, you'd hear my yellin' right where you exist in Calif from 3,000 miles away. How nasty!!!!
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quote:Strongly evidenced... huh?  LOFTON, I would be careful as to assign "HATRED" to someone or the many members here as you have... I appreciate how you provide links to message boards where you see to be at liberty to talk much more bolder than you ever talk here. At least you're not completely talking-behind-our-backs... Thanks!  Oh yeah! I think you might consider what WHOOP has said. Here he is telling you exactly what you sound like but, of course, you probably never take the time to consider that maybe... maybe you are a little too... a little too... too... Well, HELL!... if you can't or won't figure it out by now then I guess you are reprobate. |
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Nmaginate and/or all others of similar mindset!
"Strongly evidenced... huh? LOFTON, I would be careful as to assign "HATRED" to someone or the many members here as you have..." by Nmaginate Yep strongly evidenced. It would not be very difficult for any reader to discern that a few people on this board loath Caucasians on par with "hatred", without the hatred word ever being mentioned. "Oh yeah! I think you might consider what WHOOP has said. Here he is telling you exactly what you sound like but, of course, you probably never take the time to consider that maybe... maybe you are a little too... a little too... too..." by Nmaginate No need to reconsider anything. Unlike your negative assessment the Whoop holds the same or similar beliefs. "I appreciate how you provide links to message boards where you see to be at liberty to talk much more bolder than you ever talk here. At least you're not completely talking-behind-our-backs..." by Nmaginate Other than truly deceitful, no good, treasonous Black elected leaders, no good poverty pimping jackleg preachers, and/or pseudo civil rights organizations in a: A. holding elected office illegally 2nd District Los Angeles County Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, .A.K.A. "Brentwood Burke", and/or many other Black elected leaders who use false pretenses to hold elected office, who in any law abiding community would be facing criminal indictment, and without a doubt end up being convicted felons. B. No good non U.S. citizen California Assemblyman Merv Dymally, no good former Los Angeles City Councilman Nate Holden, felon Carson City Councilman Daryl Sweeney, and/or others who have disgraced themselves all by themselves. C. The no good sleazy Reverend Jesse Jackson, Ambulance chasing Attorney Johnny Cochran, no good Reverend Hartford H. Brookins, and others of similar sleaze. D. The no good NAACP. E. to which A,B,C, and D hold validity. F. to which the so-called educated class of Black America, which includes some of Black America's own Black middle class condone such activity. G. Should the Truly Law Abiding of Black America protest or condemn such blatantly illegal perverted very destructive to the community of Black America best interests, the individuals concerned are quickly branded by the phony Black nationalist set, the psuedo so-called civil rights activists, the fake Malcolm X advocates, as being an "Uncle Tom", "Reprobative", etc. It is certain that if Malcolm X were alive today, Malcolm X would be at the front of the line to condemn such activity No names were mentioned, and it is not even close to talking behind anyone's back when the same and/or similar information is posted in every instance. Although I will say that I referenced several message boards to the thoughts of africanamerica.org by leading them here with a link, so that any reader can draw his or her own conclusions what ever they may be. It would not be very difficult to draw the conclusion that a few Black people on this board have a nasty taste in their mouth when it comes to having anything good to say about Caucasians. Many of the absurd comments of erroneous information as posted by more than just a few individuals who are members of this board, would be considered as being hateful, in some instances hateful without valid reason or points of authority. The information as posted on this board is virtually identical to the thoughts as printed on several other message boards, meaning Black America's own elected leadership, and/or others in positions of responsibility have done more harm to the community of Black America than all the "Jim Crowe" years. Truth does not change. Falsehoods, and blaming the demise of everything wrong with the Black community on "Caucasian America", as strongly evidenced by a few individuals on this board, perhaps at this very writing is very prevalent. This is not to say that Caucasians are without sin, but rather Black America's own elected leadership, and/or others in positions of responsibility have indeed done more damage to "inner-city Black neighborhoods" than the Caucasian community would have thought to be humanly possible, in the name of greed to make an illegal, unethical, anti-U.S. citizen, and/or treasonous livelihood at the expense of law abiding Black people. Sincerely, Michael Lofton |
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quote:Like I said you are REPROBATE. When someone like Whoop, who you just described as having similar views to yours, says you seem to be resentful (read... pretty damn extreme - aka Take A Pill/Chill!) then you should RE-EXAMINE YOURSELF. And... sorry, being completely honest I think I have encountered perhaps only one or two poster(s) who is not a "regular" posters that I would say really held outright HATRED for Caucasians (as you call them). I won't begin to describe the HATRED YOU SHOW... It is well documented here and I don't need to reiterate it. BTW... What happened to WHOOP(ie) posting here? I think I remember him from TBWT Forum. I didn't agree with him much and we had our debates but I thought he was alright... |
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"The Power is in the People, and Not the Politicians!"
Mr. Lofton, what country do you live in? The power is with the rich, who in turn fund the politicians. |
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Well Khalilallah,
Black people better get busy because....... No Good Individuals Like California Assemblyman Merv Dymally, No Good 2nd District Supervisor Yvonne B. Burke, and/or Others, Should Not Hold Elected Office Under Any Condition! The Declaration of Independence Gives the People Power Over The U.S. Government and Its Institutions! "The Power is in the People, and Not the Politicians!"by Michael Lofton "Mr. Lofton, what country do you live in? The power is with the rich, who in turn fund the politicians." by Khalilallah Sounds like you have given politicians more credit and/or power than they deserve. The United States of America is the greatest nation ever devised, because the people rule and not politicians. Sacrifices on the part of people created the United States. The rise and fall of the United States is dependent on the people rather than the politicians and/or the wealthy. The politicians and wealthy are large and in charge because many individuals like you allow it. In California it will not be business as usual, because the people control government, and the government is composed of people. The very essense of the foundation government in the U.S., is based on the strength of the people, and not the politicians or the affluent. It is certain that just as in California, other elected officials who serve special interest groups at the expense of the people as a California Gray Davis, may face recall. The voters of other states will follow California's lead, because the people rule and not politicians. I intend to make government work as it is designed to do. Since you have this position that politicians rule and citizens have no voice, then the problem is with any citizen who chooses not to exercise their rights as citizens to hold their elected officials accountable. The Black community would also move into the mainstream if the so-called Black middle-class exercised their rights as U.S. citizens to hold Black America's own elected leadership accountable. Perhaps this is a huge problem in our community in that our own inability or weakness to exercise our rights as U.S. citizens make it very easy for no-good elected officials and/or outsiders to control the Black community's destiny. Sincerely, Michael Lofton |
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