Very interesting clip from a movie, and I think people are reading way too much into it. Basically all I feel its saying is, no one is perfect including BLACK WOMEN I know thats hard to believe for some but its true. No one ever seems to reflect on themselves about why they struggle is some areas of life. Maybe the couples relationship in the clip has simply run its course, he said he was tired of the bs. Sometimes people just make bad choices,if every man you meet is a no good weak ass nigga, then what does that say about you. Plus on the flip side if every woman you meet is is a materialic, vein egotistical shop-a-holic chick that doesnt know whats really important in life, then what does that really say about you. Also raising a kid in a unhappy marriage is not a good thing.

Okay ... after another looksee just to be sure, here's my $.02:

I, personally, give it a big ... in fact, I'll make it two . Taking out all the speculations, innuendos, imaginations, and all else that have gone into some of the comments here, the bottom line for me is that NO man that provides his wife a house, a car, all the furniture in the house, pays monthly alimony and child support checks AND is willing to be an active participant in his child's life can EVER be a weak ass nigga! If that's the case, what do you call the kind of brotha that sits home 9 months out of the year while his wife works, drives her car, spends her money and after she kicks him out, can't manage to send a birthday card to his own child once a year?? And does that make him more of a man just because he's not with a white woman??

There is no indication in this film that the two are still married, how long they've been divorced (the films description does have the word "ex-wife" in it) what the circumstances of their break up was, or what kind of "drama" was experienced during the marriage. To infer any of that doesn't really make for a valid argument against the film. Also, the female didn't deny that he had in fact paid for the house, the car, the furniture or was not paying the alimony. So, again, I don't understand the inference that he's a liar or that he didn't do those things by himself.

And why has no one commented on the fact that one of the Black women admitted to dating a White man? Is she a weak ass sista??

Just based solely on the 3+ minutes of film that was shown (and taking into account that it was a film and not a reality show!) I could get a lot madder about it if I didn't know someone like each and every one of the characters in it!! If I didn't know one Black woman that ever gave a man unnecessary drama, if I didn't know one good Black man that handled his business and fully supported his family, or if I didn't know one Black woman that would sit up and talk shit to another woman's husband (ex- or otherwise) while not even having a man herself ... then I could take this film as pure fiction. But, I happen to find a distinctive ring of truth to it, and as far as I'm concerned, those women really needed to be told what was said to them ... by somebody in a position to say it! As far as what was said in the film, dude fit that description. At least to me, anyway.

I also don't think dude all that fine ... but, I can't imagine myself standing in the doorway of a house I couldn't say I paid for and talking shit to the man who did! Especially when I'm still collecting!

Thanks, EbonyRose... not for taking the "side" of black men "over" black women... but for showing appreciation for one black man in a concrete (albeit fictional) scenario...

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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Thanks, EbonyRose... not for taking the "side" of black men "over" black women... but for showing appreciation for one black man in a concrete (albeit fictional) scenario...

And for deconstructing and analyzing the video in an objective manner.

And that concludes the 'Porgy n' Bess' smackdown...

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Originally posted by HonestBrother:
Thanks, EbonyRose... not for taking the "side" of black men "over" black women... but for showing appreciation for one black man in a concrete (albeit fictional) scenario...

And for deconstructing and analyzing the video in an objective manner.

Are you saying this, because Ebonyrose agreed with you? Or are you making your OWN conclusions concerning this videos.

As far as im concerned this video was too short to pinpoint exactly what happened.......therefore any comments concerning such, is subjective.

*you know i lub ya..........so be nice when you respond*



Honestbrother, i dont think the sistas (here) are saying that all black men are weak, and have no voice.

This is always a harsh topic, because we know that both sides, have work to do, and it hurts.

We have to now figure out how to get back to the basics of loving each other....and having strong families.

Im tired of the causes......and no solutions.

I watched it again & I still don't see the reason for the turn this thread took. The scenario could have occurred regardless of the color of his new woman. His mistakes were:

1) Bringing his new love interest to his ex's house.

2) Engaging his ex in the presence of her friends

The guy didn't blame his ex, he simply stated he was tired of fighting & needed some balance. He said he would be happy to find any woman that could help him achieve this.

IMO, the turn this topic took is like those finish the story books we read as children. Your feelings & experiences shape the details you add & emphasize to the clip. Taken only for what is presented, the clip is about a man looking for relief after a failed relationship. The woman in the car is not grinning and we do not know how long they've been divorced. Assuming she is a rebound woman is just that, an assumption. Wonder how the responses would go if the woman in the car was a sister?

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I watched it again & I still don't see the reason for the turn this thread took. The scenario could have occurred regardless of the color of his new woman. His mistakes were:

1) Bringing his new love interest to his ex's house.

2) Engaging his ex in the presence of her friends

I agree, these were two biggggggg mistakes.



Wonder how the responses would go if the woman in the car was a sister?
-ddouble

I believe the reaction would've been the same.

You're most welcome, HB & xxGambitxx! I like to give credit where credit is due! And I'm not always on the guy's side. In Diary of a Mad Black Woman, I was the first one when girlfriend rolled her husband up into that bathtub!! That, too, was justice!

And I agree with ddouble about bringing the new girl to the ex-wife's house. Unless she's the new wife, she really had no business on the premises! However, again, I do believe he was defending himself more than "engaging". He went to the door to pick up his daughter and was met with attitude and hostility from every female in the room! He didn't start that conversation, so I would call him more of the engagee!

They set up their own website:

www.tiredblackman.com

That's the point... Too many brothers who do what they are supposed to do are catching hell just because their women don't understand how to have relationships. That's the point. Some would rather have an erroneously perceived advantage through conflict rather than through loving cooperation.

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I got this in an email ... and just thought I'd share!

It's a Google Video ... so I hope the link works!

A Tired Black Man

Interesting skit, but I have question. If the man who plays the "tired Black man" in this skit is doing what he's supposed to do as a responsible father: He bought the house, the car, pays for most of the family's expenses, cares for his daughter, AND he's GORGEOUS, what would his wife, in this scenerio, have to complain about? In my opinion, this skit would be a lot more believable if he couldn't keep a job, hardly ever saw his kids, and relied upon his wife to support him. Then, she can count herself as being one of many tired Black women who has the right to complain.

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They set up their own website:

www.tiredblackman.com

and there's a movie coming too...? Too much... can you IMAGINE? They'll be R-I-C-H !!!
Worth me flying over to see it LOL.

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Thanks, EbonyRose... not for taking the "side" of black men "over" black women... but for showing appreciation for one black man in a concrete (albeit fictional) scenario...

MAN!! I don't know how I missed this one. I was reading some of the threads and had to go back and watch the video again thinking I missed something...talk about different perspectives.

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I agree, these were two biggggggg mistakes

No. His only mistake was obviously marrying his ex-wife.

They are divorced. He has moved on. And it doesn't really matter the race of the woman. If he has the legal right to pick up his child then he can regradless of who he is dating.

Now I know why my wife had a strick rule about dating men with ex-wifes and kids...BABY MOMMA DRAMA.

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unless she's the new wife, she really had no business on the premises!

That does not matter. If his EX-wife is not mature enough (probably the reason for the 4 year drama and end of the marriage) to deal with the fact that he has move on then that is HER problem. She can't dictate who the man has in HIS car.

If the ex-wife would let her "girls" disrespect the father of her daughter when he has obviously has been responsible is clearly wrong.

The video does not really give enough info to assess why they are not together, but there are any number of reasons for people not to be together... outside of a nice home/car/good looks.

Lastly, we ALL know that in a real life scenario, the sisters would never have even seen the "white girl" in the car, because we know that Black people don't sit around with the blinds up! Only white folks do that!

Black folks don't want nobody looking in their house!

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Lastly, we ALL know that in a real life scenario, the sisters would never have even seen the "white girl" in the car, because we know that Black people don't sit around with the blinds up! Only white folks do that!

Black folks don't want nobody looking in their house!

True!!

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Lastly, we ALL know that in a real life scenario, the sisters would never have even seen the "white girl" in the car, because we know that Black people don't sit around with the blinds up! Only white folks do that!

Black folks don't want nobody looking in their house!

I will give brothers the fact that some Black females are never satisfied... especially as our world becomes more materialistic... but that's what happens you play with girls. Where are you meeting these women? She didn't start complaining as soon as the ring went on~ why did you ignore the signs? (and the same can be said to us women) There just seems to be too many beautiful Black women with their acts together for this movie to have a strong foundation. It does not apply to your typical Black woman, but rather your stereotypical Black woman. Black women have been supporting and encouraging our men for centuries. And perhaps some of us take knowing what we deserve to another level where we make it difficult on our brothers. That's where honest and open communication comes in. The truth is, both sides have valid complaints. But what good fight was ever won by running away? And no, a good relationship shouldn't be a struggle~ but it also can't be mistaken for having a yes-man/woman by your side. Neither of you will reach your greatest potential that way. When did we become so satisfied with mediocrity?