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A5 |
Perhaps later, I may put together a brief timeline with regard to afrikan existence.
But until then, these clips do a good job of putting in perspective just how far back the afrikan goes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-daBOKyF4yM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO9mFoDkj8o&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLErTapJlM&feature=related Where was adam during the epoch of the sphinx and the afrikan civilization responsible for creating the statue? Ah yes: "4022 BC Adam created" Perhaps there were some serious editorial work being done to the book of genesis...
>>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><< "Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history." "For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke "Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky "Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko |
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A5 |
That brief timeline:
40000 b.c.e: Swaziland (Ngwenya) Iron mines 35000 b.c.e: evidence of some form of mathematics (The Ishango bone) 30000 b.c.e: The oldest known sculpture of a human figure found in the Munhu Mutapa empire 15000 b.c.e: an understanding of constellations "astrology" (leading to the introduction of mans' first calendar) 12000 b.c.e: Sebelian II ruled pre-dynastic kmt 10000 b.c.e: the sphinx 8000 b.c.e: Sebelian III ruled pre-dynastic kmt 4100 b.c.e: intro. of the first solar calendar. 4022 b.c.e: Adam was created Uh...that's good enough.
>>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><< "Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history." "For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke "Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky "Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko |
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A1 |
 Egungun, Egungun ni t'aiye ati jo! Ancestos, Ancestors come to earth and dance! "I'm sick of the war and the civilization that created it. Let's look to our dreams, and the magical; to the creations of the so-called primitive peoples for new inspirations." - Jaques Vache and Andre Breton "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." -John Maynard "You know that in our country there were even matriarchal societies where women were the most important element. On the Bijagos islands they had queens. They were not queens because they were the daughters of kings. They had queens succeeding queens. The religious leaders were women too..." -- Amilcar Cabral, Return to the Source, 1973    |
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Phoenix Rising |
Interesting Raptor...
Peace, Khalliqa "The Goddess emerges as the evanescence of the inferior dissipates.... " |
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A1 |
Thanks for the timeline.
Help me with resolving the reported establishment of the City of Memphis estimated to be circa 3500 b.c. the reported beginning of the Pharoah-Era. PEACE Jim Chester African Americans for African America http://iaanh2.org African American Pledge of Unity We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America. © James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008 You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are. |
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C5 |
Don't forget the Semliki Harpoon Harpoon found the the DRC (Dem. Repub. of the Congo) dating back 90,000 BC.
Of all our studies, history is best qualified to reward our research." --Malcolm X |
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Good stuff. I don't recall ever hearing (or reading) about the Semliki Harpoon. In short, this is new information for me.  And also, This only adds to the fact that woman and man were living and doing long before adam (and eve) and that our story, our existence, do not begin in iraq. Not just black people, but humanity in general. My timeline is a prequel to: http://africanamerica.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/19370808/m/4671041074 >>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><< "Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history." "For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke "Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky "Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko |
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I have read somewhere that menes created or built memphis and was the first dynastic ruler to unify all of the nile valley civilizations (kmt). As to the date. I've seen similar dates of 3 thousand and 'something' with regard to memphis, depending on what "authority" one wants to go with. >>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><< "Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history." "For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke "Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky "Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko |
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Originally posted by Raptor
 The reported date for Menes regime is 2920-2770 [the 1st Dynasty]. This era is also called the Early Dynastic Period-which is the beginning of patriarchal rule of Egypt[Kmt] civilization...making Menes, the first residing Pharoah-which he appointed himself, by the way. ------ Baines, John & Jaromir Malek, Atlas of Ancient Egypt, Facts on Publication, New York:1984, p.8 |
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Black Ceasar |
I thought the beginning of Menes' reign started around 3100BC.
I think they're trying to shorten the years and discredit the ancient Egyptians. "There are two things that are infinite, human stupidity and the universe...and I'm not too sure about the universe." --Albert Einstein |
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Phoenix Rising |
Does anyone have knowledge of the prehistory before egypt's dynastic period? Peace, Khalliqa "The Goddess emerges as the evanescence of the inferior dissipates.... " |
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@Huey....white Egyptologists DON'T really know the exact time of Menes. And so we have all these dates. However, the reason for that is whenever a regime took over...most times the new ruler ALWAYS defaced the hieroglpyhics of the usurped ruler as if the former NEVER existed. And sometimes the new ruler even replaced the old face with the new face[his]...and claim it as his own. That's why a lot of Egyptian art/drawings [especially those on the walls] are shown with no faces or heads are missing etc. That's how it was done during those times. Just like how our history of intelligence was usurped by the European. He took all the credit....and didn't do a damn thang to earn it! |
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Originally posted by Khalliqa
Hey Sista K. Egyptian predynastic period was ruled by the matriarchal i.e. goddesses/women ruled and were worshipped. For example: Isis, The Hathors, Bess, Mut, etc. The Dynastic era was the beginning of the pariarchal period in which Menes [men] i.e the 1st Pharoah [the original son of God theory] ruled. |
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A5 |
For starters: Dr. Ben: "Africa: Mother of Western Civilization" John G. Jackson: "Man, God and Civilization"
>>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><< "Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history." "For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke "Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky "Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko |
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According to Dr. Ben's "Africa: Mother of Western Civilization", he states that menes came on the the scene somewhere around 3200-2980 b.c.e. page 308 However, In John G. Jackson's "God, Man, & Civilization", he states (that according to manetho), that menes came to the throne in 5776 b.c.e. page 220 I believe that when it comes to egypt (and other civilizations of antiquity), for the most part, some folks are "shifty" with the dates for they don't want to conflict or contradict the genesis story. There are many dates put before us with regard to afrika and its people. To, me it shows that afrikans and many of their societies/civilizations are extremely old. Extremely -old. Much older than ca. 4022 b.c.e. and ultimately, that is the case that I am making. >>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><< "Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history." "For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke "Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky "Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko |
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A1 |
I believe that when it comes to egypt (and other civilizations of antiquity), for the most part, some folks are "shifty" with the dates for they don't want to conflict or contradict the genesis story.---Raptor
You are right. No one wants to get nose-to-nose with either Christianity, or Islam. Sarah and Haggar. Abraham and Genesis. The benchmarks of religion do not coincide with the benchmarks of history. Clearly, the antiquity of history engulfs the timeframe of the religious records PEACE Jim Chester African Americans for African America http://iaanh2.org African American Pledge of Unity We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America. © James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008 You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are. |
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Phoenix Rising |
? Muslims do not adhere to a biblical timeline! lol Peace, Khalliqa "The Goddess emerges as the evanescence of the inferior dissipates.... " |
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Phoenix Rising |
I am of the belief that Egypt was the last of our greatness not a remnant of us at our best... :-) Peace, Khalliqa "The Goddess emerges as the evanescence of the inferior dissipates.... " |
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