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Recently, the University of Georgia placed Chi Phi fraternity on two year's probation after a group of seven freshman pledgees and a campus visitor showed nude pictures of Black women to passers-by on campus, photographing people's reactions. Public responses to the incident have been mixed, with some people questioning whether the incident was actually racially-motivated or whether the right to free speech protects the group's actions.

However, my problems with this incident extend beyond mere intellectual banter. As a Black man, my racial identity makes me mad as hell at the fact that seven White boys were brazen enough to publicly show explicit pictures of Black women without fear of consequence. It conjures uncomfortable images of the historical exploitation of Black women by White men that is rarely discussed. As a social/community psychologist, however, I am perplexed by the fact that, to my knowledge, no public statement condemning the acts has come from Black fraternities, Black male faculty, or Black male administrators - either at UGA or any university.

How could Black men be so silent on this issue?

I dare say that there are probably more than a few Black men who are in possession of the same issue of Black Tail magazine that the Chi Phi pledges used to "shock" passers-by. These Black men are prime candidates for experiencing cognitive dissonance - thinking that it's wrong to objectify women as sexual instruments, but doing so because they like how what they see makes them feel. Therefore, how can Black men conscientiously condemn seven White boys for flashing nude pictures of Black women to others in public when Black men flash the same pictures to themselves in private? Something seems hypocritical about that, right? Yet, in order to avoid perceiving oneself as hypocritical - which exacerbates cognitive dissonance - one might react like Brandon Hall, president of the Black Affairs Council at UGA, who is quoted in the campus newspaper as asking, "Why didn't (the pledges) use a more mainstream magazine?"

Hall's comment could be interpreted as insinuating that it would have been less controversial had the "Chi Phi Seven" used pictures of, say, White or Latino women. But, by making race a salient issue, the broader issue of sexism is relegated to the periphery and ignored.

Yes, it is true that the sexist and misogynistic images that are widespread in media reflect an objectifying patriarchy that promotes and justifies an ambivalent, demeaning attitude of men towards women. And yes, it is also true that this is not a problem that uniquely affects Black men - it affects men of all races and ethnicities. So why am I choosing to focus on Black men's sexism and misogyny towards Black women? Why am I being so hard on Black men? There are two reasons. First, the ubiquity of sexism and misogyny means that Black men from all walks of life - athletes, clergy, entertainers, gangstas, intellectuals, laborers, politicians, professionals, and thugs - share a common problem that affects our communities: a problem that we must collectively address. It is shameful that organizations that have a "Black Male Agenda" or that have leadership comprised primarily of Black men - such as the Congressional Black Caucus, the National Baptist Convention, the NAACP, the National Urban League, and Concerned Black Men - do not do more to explicitly attack sexism and misogyny in Black communities.

Second, I press the issue because the silence of both individual Black men and the organizations that supposedly represent Black communities becomes complicit in the degradation of women in general and increases the vulnerability of the image of Black women - making it easier for those both inside and outside our community to portray Black women in any way they see fit and not face repercussions. Would the Chi Phi frat boys have so easily flashed those photos if it was clear that Black men and Black organizations would have joined Black women in condemning their actions? Would Christina Norman (an African American woman and president of MTV Networks), permit the airing of a cartoon episode that depicts Black women as dogs on leashes (i.e., "bitches") if she thought that doing so would elicit a hue and cry from Black folks? It is crucial to understand that our silence about what people do to us and how they portray us is endorsement to those people that their actions are acceptable.

The intergenerational transmission of sexism and misogyny is wreaking havoc on our young people, our families, and our communities. Researchers note that repeated exposure to crime, violence, and other suboptimal environments are not conducive for human growth and development. I further propose that repeated exposure to the less than respectful ways that many Black men refer to and treat Black women cannot be healthy for our children's growth and development. It shapes negative attitudes about gender roles, contributes to a poor self-concept, and creates a vicious cycle of unhealthy and destructive relationships that aid in destabilizing our families and communities. This is why I'm writing on the issue. We've got to do something about this.

As a starting point, Black men must address issues related to sexism and misogyny by confronting the contradictions between what we say and what we do. Black civic and social organizations should facilitate a structured dialogue about these issues and make the elimination of sexism and misogyny prominent goals in their organizational aims. At the same time, Black men must be more vocal in challenging instances of sexism and misogyny that are directed towards Black women and Black girls wherever they occur - be it in commercials, television news and network "programs," movies, magazines, music videos, radio songs, or conversations in barber shops, schools, social spaces, workplaces, and, yes, even places of worship. Black men must, in clear non-patriarchal terms, confront the negative images of our people that are created and propagated by either corporate media or emboldened White frat boys. We must also take to task and hold accountable those individuals or entities within our community that perpetuate and profit from these negative images.

http://www.louisianaweekly.com/weekly/news/articlegate.pl?20061009o

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Posts: 2257 | Registered: January 07, 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I don't get all that from the incident. Pictures people choose to view in private has a completely different standard than is acceptable for public consumption. IMO, the pledges chose the pictures they did because of their fetish for Black women. If the organization was a Black group or a female group, the problem with the pledge activity is the same; explicit pictures being shown to unwilling participants.

The female body is attractive and stimulating. There is no shame in acknowledging that. Porn is fantasy, viewing behavior vicariously that you couldn't live out. I don't consider it misogynous any more than I consider Playgirl misandryous.


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(1) Recklessness, which leads to destruction;
(2) cowardice, which leads to capture;
(3) a hasty temper, which can be provoked by insults;
(4) a delicacy of honor which is sensitive to shame;
(5) over-solicitude for his men, which exposes him to worry and trouble."
-Sun Tzu




 
Posts: 2986 | Registered: July 28, 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by ddouble:
I don't get all that from the incident. Pictures people choose to view in private has a completely different standard than is acceptable for public consumption. IMO, the pledges chose the pictures they did because of their fetish for Black women. If the organization was a Black group or a female group, the problem with the pledge activity is the same; explicit pictures being shown to unwilling participants.

The female body is attractive and stimulating. There is no shame in acknowledging that. Porn is fantasy, viewing behavior vicariously that you couldn't live out. I don't consider it misogynous any more than I consider Playgirl misandryous.


yeah

I ain't gon lie. Naked women are beautiful. I think the female body is the most beautiful sight to behold. And no matter how many naked women I see I don't think I will ever lose the sense of sheer wonder and awe I get when I see female nudity.

I particularly enjoy looking at naked black women.

To put things in perspective, wouldn't you really think it strange if I preferred looking at naked white women?

I think the idea that viewing "pornography" is inherently misogynistic is hogwash.

But I do agree with the latter part of the article. That black men need to do more about addressing sexism and misogyny. I take my brothers and other relatives to task about things they say. When I think an issue needs addressing I usually don't shy away from doing so.

But by the same token, I believe there are a number of issues (many of which are discussed on this board) that black organizations need to do more to address. I don't see why this one should take priority over all the others.





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Posts: 8549 | Registered: January 02, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Do most men have a clear understanding of sexism? I'll admit that I am somewhat confused about the subject.

For example, when the Apple Bottom jeans tour came to Detroit looking for female representatives, my initial reaction was that is was sexist and exploitive; why only find worth in how a black woman looks from behind? But after I saw the line of sistas wrapped around the corner, I figured that it must not be sexist, otherwise the women would have not shown up.

And what about the many booty shakin videos that we see? There are always an abundance of women willing and ready to shake their stuff for little to nothing in these videos; is it sexist or opportunist? Do the women who line up at auditions feel that it's sexist?

I see it as a demand for gratification, sexual gratification using the female body. If the exploitation stopped today in the rap/fashion/porn industries, there will still be women who seek sexual gratification from men via their bodies. As long as there is a need for this type of attention, someone will provide the stage.


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Posts: 122 | Registered: July 31, 2003Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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I voted kinda in the same thread in sistaspot...

I guess at issue is whether Pornography is inherently sexist, misogynist??? Is it acceptable to be even a private viewer of pornography? (I make no judgements on this issue-yet)


I did not see the frat boys as having a fetish. I interpreted them as saying "look at these strange dark naked things!" as in ridiculing the bootylicious black female form...





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Posts: 7898 | Registered: August 11, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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if this is a white frat doing this, why blame the blk men for not speaking up?? I just don't understand. In my college days, I didn't feel, nor saw, much black on black love at all [this is a white majority college we are speaking of right??]. It seemed like most of the black women were 'all thugged out' with gangsta wannabees. Maybe their 50 cent/biggie smalls fake thug boyfriends should have responded to this if anything. If this incident would have happen on Georgetown's campus, I must admit I would have be indifferent, except for pushing for any police/legal action against those white boys for airing out porno in public [i.e. did they check IDs to see if any of those that flashed the photos to were under 18??...probably not...then that's legal]. I understand the basic point of the end of the piece, but I think the author is letting the white frat people off the hook to easy. The bulk of the article should be focused on their punishment/removal for that campus.
 
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