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Originally posted by Black Viking:

On the rare occasion that a woman does this to me, I don't even trip on her. I immediately go and find some other woman in the vicinity to talk to/flirt with. The message being, "If you want to go play with that dude, then go on and play. I'll have you replaced before the night is out."

LOL...that was cute! But isn't that playing the "tit for tat" stuff?

Isn't it easier to just sent the whole dang thang down and find someone who just isn't into games?

"Wisdom Is A Woman Cracking UP!"

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Originally posted by ShayaButHer:

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Originally posted by Black Viking:

On the rare occasion that a woman does this to me, I don't even trip on her. I immediately go and find some other woman in the vicinity to talk to/flirt with. The message being, "If you want to go play with that dude, then go on and play. I'll have you replaced before the night is out."

LOL...that was cute! But isn't that playing the "tit for tat" stuff?

Isn't it easier to just sent the whole dang thang down and find someone who just isn't into games?

All women play games... and so do all men. "The mating dance" is a game. It's a "win - win" game. If the game is played right then both players win. If it's not played right then both players lose... because that's where the game (relationship) ends. In order to win you have to play by the rules. But women make the rules, and for a man to play by the rules he needs to know what the rules are.

*Side-note* The rules do not change from woman to woman. I know some men think they do... but those men are stupid.

In my opinion the Black woman in America that tests her man more does so because she basically has no respect for him. She knows he does not control his environment.

As far as all men and all women playing games I disagree. I for one dont play games. I'm who I am and if thats not appealing enough for a woman fuck it! I dont have time for all the faking and frontin. Dont get me wrong I enjoy courting and the process of getting to know a woman, but once I see she is either faking or playing games I exit!

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Originally posted by ZAKAR:
In my opinion the Black woman in America that tests her man more does so because she basically has no respect for him. She knows he does not control his environment.

As far as all men and all women playing games I disagree. I for one dont play games. I'm who I am and if thats not appealing enough for a woman fuck it! I dont have time for all the faking and frontin. Dont get me wrong I enjoy courting and the process of getting to know a woman, but once I see she is either faking or playing games I exit!

Zakar, have you been listening to Sgt. Willie Pete lately?

Lauren London - Love for Thugs O-Dog/Caine
FCUK BET!!!
F@CK BET 2- Profitting off the Insecurities and Pain of Black Women

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"There are two things that are infinite, human stupidity and the universe...and I'm not too sure about the universe."
--Albert Einstein

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Originally posted by Huey:

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Originally posted by ZAKAR:
In my opinion the Black woman in America that tests her man more does so because she basically has no respect for him. She knows he does not control his environment.

As far as all men and all women playing games I disagree. I for one dont play games. I'm who I am and if thats not appealing enough for a woman fuck it! I dont have time for all the faking and frontin. Dont get me wrong I enjoy courting and the process of getting to know a woman, but once I see she is either faking or playing games I exit!

Zakar, have you been listening to Sgt. Willie Pete lately?

Lauren London - Love for Thugs O-Dog/Caine
FCUK BET!!!
F@CK BET 2- Profitting off the Insecurities and Pain of Black Women

You can take ZAKAR'S comments as what would be the general response from most of these tired ass dudes up in here.


Man, a lot of the things that Sgt dude says on youtube I've been saying for years and years. I've said the same things on Africanamerica.org and got the same response: The females acting like I'm doggin' em' and these punk ass dudes on this site backin' em' up talking about how it's all the black man's fault and black women have to put up with sooooooooo much because they want some attention from this tired ass females sooooo bad even to get some dry ass, insincere response (Oh she posted a comment saying that I was soooooo right about the plight of the black woman).

The dude is right. The vicious cycle goes on. Too many sisters grow up incouraging these boys to be thugs and turning down the decent boys for doing the right thing. They (sisters) don't wake up and realize the decent boys was the ones they should have been getting with until they drop a few out of wedlock children and get beat up and neglected by those same thugs. Even then some of them keep on chasing thugs until they're too old and worn out for anybody to want them.

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Originally posted by Romulus Burnett:

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Originally posted by Huey:

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Originally posted by ZAKAR:
In my opinion the Black woman in America that tests her man more does so because she basically has no respect for him. She knows he does not control his environment.

As far as all men and all women playing games I disagree. I for one dont play games. I'm who I am and if thats not appealing enough for a woman fuck it! I dont have time for all the faking and frontin. Dont get me wrong I enjoy courting and the process of getting to know a woman, but once I see she is either faking or playing games I exit!

Zakar, have you been listening to Sgt. Willie Pete lately?

Lauren London - Love for Thugs O-Dog/Caine
FCUK BET!!!
FCUK BET 2- Profitting off the Insecurities and Pain of Black Women

You can take ZAKAR'S comments as what would be the general response from most of these tired ass dudes up in here.


Man, a lot of the things that Sgt dude says on youtube I've been saying for years and years. I've said the same things on Africanamerica.org and got the same response: The females acting like I'm doggin' em' and these punk ass dudes on this site backin' em' up talking about how it's all the black man's fault and black women have to put up with sooooooooo much because they want some attention from this tired ass females sooooo bad even to get some dry ass, insincere response (Oh she posted a comment saying that I was soooooo right about the plight of the black woman).

The dude is right. The vicious cycle goes on. Too many sisters grow up incouraging these boys to be thugs and turning down the decent boys for doing the right thing. They (sisters) don't wake up and realize the decent boys was the ones they should have been getting with until they drop a few out of wedlock children and get beat up and neglected by those same thugs. Even then some of them keep on chasing thugs until they're too old and worn out for anybody to want them.*

*cough* Vivica Fox *cough* 40-something years old, pushing 50, and chasing after 50Cent.

You can take ZAKAR'S comments as what would be the general response from most of these tired ass dudes up in here.

AND WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU??

Everyone has a right to their own opinion and I stated mine.

Hmmmmm ... I'm having a little trouble with your analysis, BV! I'm with you up to this point ...

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Originally posted by Black Viking:

There you have it... they really don't understand it. That's why taking the advise of women on the sexual motivations of women is such a lost cause.

Women don't use logic when making decisions regarding men. They are emotionally hard-wired to respond to certain stimuli. It either "feels right"... or it "doesn't feel right". Despite the fact that women's social intelligence is far greater than ours... most of it is unconscious.

... but beyond that, I don't believe it's a matter of a woman trying to match a "social value" when it comes to hooking up with a mate. And while I believe that the "mating dance" is somewhat of a game in and of itself, I think the only reason why men play it is because women force it to happen if any kind of relationship is going to take place!

I believe that men are much more simpler ... much more "what you see is what you get." And that women do much more in the way of "testing" than a man would even want to. The games, IMO, are unnecessary and cumbersome. But a lot of women use them to gauge that "if feels right ... or it doesn't feel right" attitude. And I really don't believe it's much more scientific than that.

It is for that reason that so many women will pick a man below that "social value" that you speak of and try to *change* him into what they really want him to be. More often than not they're not even looking for somebody on their social, mental or emotional level ... they pick the one that "feels good" and then set about with the transformation. If they were really looking to be more discriminating and make the better choice from the start, many would not have the same number of knucklehead ex's (aka regrets) as they have today.

A lot of the *games* and *testing* come from trying to make filet mignon out of simple ground beef! And a lot of women will spend years trying to perfect the technique that can make that happen. However, there isn't one. You have to start at the high-end meat section to find the perfect cut.

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Originally posted by ZAKAR:
You can take ZAKAR'S comments as what would be the general response from most of these tired ass dudes up in here.

AND WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU??

Everyone has a right to their own opinion and I stated mine.

I'm ROMULUS BURNETT. Now move along. You're wrinkling up my French cuff dress shirt with that hot breath of yours.

As I said before, and I reiterate:

You can take ZAKAR'S comment as what would be the general consensus on this discussion board.

Most of these women will deny or dismiss the cold hard truth. I'm willing to bet 1 in 4 sisters on this discussion board, as well as in the general populus of sisters, all chased after some thug ass dude all through middle school, high school, and most of their college years.

The only ones that stopped chasing thugs are dead, knee deep in kids or locked up in a psych ward or prison.

Pathetic dudes that are always seeking attention from these females always make them chivalrous, Captain Sav-a-ho comments like "I think sisters have it hard enough as it is" or "No matter what happens I will always love my sisters" or even worse, turn on their own kind for the attention of one of these females like: "Brother you sound very ignorant. You must not love yourself. Deal with your inferiority and...." yeah, nigga. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Then you always have that one muhfucka that gotta be the ladies man: "Shit, all I gotta do is beat a woman at her own game by going to the club and...." Yeah, you can shut your tired ass up too because your dumbass is the main one fucking it up for everybody else.

I'm not advocating interracial dating. Hell, I'm not even telling you to that 'two can play that game'. But I sure as hell ain't going to let some female of any race kick me up and down the road while she saves herself for some thug to beat out on a regular basis, then take her car and ride his boys all around town lookin' for more dumbass chicks just like the one he left at the house cryin' on the phone to her mama or her girlfriends: "What I'ma do??? I loveded him!!!!"

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It is for that reason that so many women will pick a man below that "social value" that you speak of and try to *change* him into what they really want him to be. More often than not they're not even looking for somebody on their social, mental or emotional level ... they pick the one that "feels good"

Yeah. I'll bet it "feels good" when that thug takes her cash so he can get his drank' on or buy some weed. I'll bet it "feels good" while she's perfecting her celibacy skills because that fool doing a dime up at the state pen. I'll bet it "feels good" to get the taste slapped out of her or cussed out in public. I'll bet it "feels good" when she has to wake her grandmama up at 2am to see if she can talk her into using her social security check to help bail that muhfucka out of jail. I'll bet it "feels good" when her three children are hungry as hell and all she has in the refrigerator is a can of potted meat and a half empty bottle of flat Faygo root beer. I'll bet it "feels good" when her last resort is to turn to a halfway house because that thug cleaned her out of house and home. Yeah, I'll bet that shit "feels good" then.

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Originally posted by EbonyRose:
It is for that reason that so many women will pick a man below that "social value" that you speak of and try to *change* him into what they really want him to be. More often than not they're not even looking for somebody on their social, mental or emotional level ... they pick the one that "feels good" and then set about with the transformation. If they were really looking to be more discriminating and make the better choice from the start, many would not have the same number of knucklehead ex's (aka regrets) as they have today.

Actually Ebony... what you're describing here is a part of what I was talking about.

Women will often choose a man that has lower social value than they do. They do this because they enjoy flexing their sexual dominance. It makes them feel good about themselves. They may also do it because, although his value is not as high as she would like, he's simply the highest value male available at the moment.

But of course, she knows she's better than him. If she didn't know that she wouldn't feel it necessary to change him or think she was qualified to do so.

When women are trying to "change a man", they aren't actually trying to change anything. They're exerting their sexual dominance, simply because they see an opportunity to do so. A woman will definitely keep a man around just for this reason. Hell, many women will keep several men around just to play the role of ego booster.

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Originally posted by Black Viking:

Women will often choose a man that has lower social value than they do. They do this because th ey enjoy flexing their sexual dominance. It makes them feel good about themselves. They may also do it because, although his value is not as high as she would like, he's simply the highest value male available at the moment.

don't you find it interesting that more than one sista has entered this thread and said they don't like games and they don't play games...

and have been virtually ignored in the rush to slam-a-sista fest

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by Black Viking:

Women will often choose a man that has lower social value than they do. They do this because th ey enjoy flexing their sexual dominance. It makes them feel good about themselves. They may also do it because, although his value is not as high as she would like, he's simply the highest value male available at the moment.

don't you find it interesting that more than one sista has entered this thread and said they don't like games and they don't play games...

and have been virtually ignored in the rush to slam-a-sista fest

And it's really funny about all the dudes who are so above these game playing sistas and yet have so damn much to say on the topic.

Evidently they don't do a very good job avoiding women who play games.

They must give off "I am to be trifled with" vibes or something.

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
don't you find it interesting that more than one sista has entered this thread and said they don't like games and they don't play games...

and have been virtually ignored in the rush to slam-a-sista fest

I haven't slammed anyone, and the only person I've ignored is Romulus. Mine is about as objective an analysis as you are ever going to find anywhere.

As I said before... Despite the fact that women have much higher social intelligence than men, the vast majority of it is unconcious. Women always "say" they don't play games... while they're deeply engaged in some game.

What I find more interesting is the immediate assumption that "games" are "bad"... or that there's anything wrong in particular with the Game itself.

Peace....

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But women make the rules, and for a man to play by the rules he needs to know what the rules are.

I think this about sums it up....Here are the rules for those that wish to know...

Just do as you are instructed

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and have been virtually ignored in the rush to slam-a-sista fest

I for one believe that there are some women who prefer to opt out of the game scene, however, not every women who makes this claim is of this particular non playing ilk..Denying that you play the game of testing a man is part of the mastery of the game...



Whirling Moat

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:




don't you find it interesting that more than one sista has entered this thread and said they don't like games and they don't play games...

and have been virtually ignored in the rush to slam-a-sista fest

Yes..

It is quite interesting...

Men who insist on believing there must be some voodoo game playing on a woman's part just reveals that he is distrustful of women... there is no need to be distrustful of an entire gender lest someone has been caught in a web of deceit and naively fell for it...

thus...

attributing the motivations of all women to be equated with the one that he naively gave his heart to...

for all other men...

women are human beings... who like to know up front if someone is genuinely interested and she will respond in kind...

this sort of back and forth is eliminated through the process of courtship... where a man doesn't approach you unless he's interested in marriage and a woman doesn't accept unless she's interested in marriage...

the dating scene is a little rougher... where the hurt feelings of all must be waded through...

I believe no matter the method most men and women want a fresh, honest start like anyone...

those who are suspicious are left to over analyze the motivations of others... like playing chess...

must be a difficult mix of emotions and distrust to sustain...

I feel for them...

always "playing"...

they forget to just "live"...

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Peace,
Khalliqa

"The Goddess emerges as the evanescence of the inferior dissipates.... "

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by Black Viking:

Women will often choose a man that has lower social value than they do. They do this because th ey enjoy flexing their sexual dominance. It makes them feel good about themselves. They may also do it because, although his value is not as high as she would like, he's simply the highest value male available at the moment.

don't you find it interesting that more than one sista has entered this thread and said they don't like games and they don't play games...

and have been virtually ignored in the rush to slam-a-sista fest

You're kidding right? Yeah. You are kidding.


A united 'front' like this was expected.

After all, brothers like Radioraheem, Huey, Herustar and me have been chipping away at topics like this for quite sometime. All of you have had your bouts with our subject matter long enough to finally be on the same page and deny or evade the truth and put in place your diplomatic responses in order to maintain the fascade of omnipotent sisterhood y'all are always trying to portray on this discussion board.

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Originally posted by Whirling Moat:
Peace....

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But women make the rules, and for a man to play by the rules he needs to know what the rules are.

I think this about sums it up....Here are the rules for those that wish to know...

Just do as you are instructed

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and have been virtually ignored in the rush to slam-a-sista fest

I for one believe that there are some women who prefer to opt out of the game scene, however, not every women who makes this claim is of this particular non playing ilk..Denying that you play the game of testing a man is part of the mastery of the game...



Whirling Moat

You learn quickly, grasshopper.

@ this muhfucka right here:

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Originally posted by black queen:

Mine is about as objective an analysis as you are ever going to find anywhere.

Yes, a very objective, sound, insightful, reflective analysis that came from the same dude that made up this trash:

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