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OK, so am I the only one who thinks its a bit fishy that the Jamaican sprinters are as dominant as they've been so far in the Olympics? Both the men's and women's 100 meter winners have relatively little to no experience, but absolutely destroy the field. 19




 
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OK, so am I the only one who thinks its a bit fishy that the Jamaican sprinters are as dominant as they've been so far in the Olympics? Both the men's and women's 100 meter winners have relatively little to no experience, but absolutely destroy the field. 19

Well there was a "supposedly" a video on youtube from the founder of BALCO (maker of "the Clear" and "the Cream") - Victor Conte - where he states that he believes that the Jamaicans are using.

There was also this article I found in The Jamaica Observer
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J'can athlete tests positive
Fennell disappointed, says runner not among big names
By Kayon Raynor Senior Observer reporter raynork@jamaicaobserver.com
Monday, July 28, 2008

Twelve days before the start of the 29th Olympiad in Beijing, China, the Jamaica Olympic Association (JOA) has confirmed that a member of its team tested positive for a banned substance at the June 27-29 National Track and Field Championships.

"All I can tell you is yes, there was a positive one," JOA president Mike Fennell admitted to the Observer yesterday.

Fennell declined to name the athlete as he was yet to receive written confirmation he requested from the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF), after a verbal confirmation. He said, however, that the athlete was not one of the country's big names.

Fennell said that confirmation from the Monaco-based IAAF, athletics' world governing body, was expected today, given the time difference between both jurisdictions.

According to the IAAF rule, once an athlete's 'A' sample is returned positive the national association is advised and the athlete has two weeks from that time to apply for his/her 'B' sample to be tested.

If that 'B' sample is returned positive, the athlete usually gets a two-year ban.

Yesterday, Fennell expressed disappointment that someone representing Jamaica went the route of cheating.

"I am extremely disappointed and not just (because of) our image, but given our objective and philosophy," (of competing clean) he said.

In recent months, fingers have been pointed at Jamaica, intimating that enough has not been done here to combat doping.

A July 8 BBC article quoted Dr Adrian Lorde, head of the Caribbean Regional Anti-Doping Organisation (RADO), voicing concerns about the number of testing done in Jamaica, which is not a member of RADO.

"I would like to think they do that testing there, but I really don't know. I don't know what level of certification their doping control officers have. We really don't know what is going on in Jamaica," Dr Lorde said.

"I am concerned they don't have the programme in place they should have based on the amount of success they have," he added. There has been talk about a national anti-doping organisation in Jamaica for many years, but it is not functioning yet, as far as we can tell. I don't have any worries there are athletes in Jamaica who are cheating, but you only know if it's tested."

However, Fennell, who recently indicated that 96 tests (six out of competition) have been carried out on Jamaican athletes locally since the start of the year, said the fact that a positive test has been returned indicates that our system is working.

Last month's positive test is the second such case to have been caught by Jamaican authorities in the last four years. Sprinter Steve Mullings, who won the 200 metres at the 2004 Olympic trials, was banned for two years after testing positive for testosterone.

Other Jamaicans to have tested positive for using banned substances include sprinters Merlene Ottey (Nandrolone), Dwayne Jarrett and shot putter Dorian Scott (Marijuana), and long/triple jumper Suzette Lee (Salbutamol - used for the treatment of asthma, chronic bronchitis and other breathing disorders).

Ottey escaped being banned as her 'B' sample returned negative; while Scott and Lee received public warnings.


Here is story from the LA Times that mentions Conte's view of the Jamaican team.


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The other question maybe are our athletes drug free & clean?

Listening to Olympic coverage, a story was revealed of many track & field athletes (many who did not win) are a part of a volunteered drug free program where they are drug tested more often than the Olympic standards. The right thing to do but the end result?

This is turning into a disaster.

Tyson Gay, 100 meter dash, did not qualify for the finals. Never fully recovered from calf injury.

The American women in the 100 meter dash final, no medals.

Terrance Tremmel, the 2 time Olympic silver medalist, 110 meter hurdler, pulled up lame (hamstring) in the semifinals (jumped one hurdle)

Lopez Lomong, one of the "Lost Boys" of Africa, 1500 meter race (finished in last place, did not qualify). Leo Manzano, also in that race, failed to qualify.

Bernard Lagat, World record holder (1500 & 5000) failed to qualify for the finals?

American shot putters Adam Nelson, Reese Hoffa and Christian Cantwell came into the Games with seven of the top 10 throws of 2008. Nelson and Hoffa didn't even make the final six here Friday night; Cantwell salvaged a silver medal.

For the first time in Olympic history, there were no American men finalists in the high jump.

Maybe the 400 meter race, the 200 meter race and the 4X 100 for both men and women will salvage.

I agree, Usain Bolt's 100 meter dash win was just too crazy. Usain Bolt has run a 9.76 in May 2008, runs a 9.72 in June 2008, and now he lowered it to a 9.69 in Bejing? A full 0.07 second improvement all done within a 4 month period? In track & field, that's not realistic.

Isn't that the kind of improvement that got Ben Jonson in trouble?

Talking about Ben Johnson after their Olympics, Carl Lewis stated that it takes years of drug free training and regiment and it is virtually impossible to increase that improvement of speed displayed by Ben Johnson natually in such a short period of time without the assistance of drugs. He was right about Johnson.

That was also the issue swirling around the late Florence Griffith-Joyner, who died mysteriously.

And don't forget Marion Jones and her two ex-husbands.

Professional track & field is becoming Major League Baseball, it has imploded; it has a major credibility problem across the board with athletes who cheat & newer designer performance enhancing drugs that purposely mask/evades drug testing and no one believes what they see anymore but the business of track & field needs to survive.

America can thank the 2004 Olympic Track & Field Teams for 2008's failures.

They need a champion but for America after Marion Jones, interest fell off. Sponsers are probably running away, training support is lowered. No one really cares about Olympic track & field anymore like it was before..

Are they looking the other way with Bolt because White America has their "All American Champion" for the next 4 years and beyond with swimmer Michael Phelps? Confused

I question, is he even clean? If Phelps is dirty, they will conceal it forever. They continue to keep 7 time Tour De France champion Lance Armstrong protected from any drug scrunity also.

Makes you wonder.



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