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Oh shame on you, MBM! nono

I was about to answer your previous post, but you just went from bad to worse ... and I don't even feel like trying to be reasonable with you right now! Roll Eyes


You're the one that's being unreasonable, ebony. The Hillary camp has been throwing low blows since day one. Firstly, name one presidential hopeful in the history of the United States that had a former president as a spouse.

Secondly, when Obama first began looking like a threat to Hillary's chances at the democratic nomination she started the crying game claiming she's being discriminated against but when it looked like her smear tactics started taking effect on Obama's campaign she's saying: "If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen." But no one seems to be acknowledging Hillary's double standard campaign tactics.

No one, not you, ebony, not even the media, has acknowledged the fact that Hillary has had the biggest political advantages in the history of the United States yet she's still being beat down by a virtual nobody.

The media is putting every ounce of energy into the only defense Hillary can use to justify continuing her pointless campaigning: Trying to prove her "electability." Otherwise, she has no chance at overcoming Obama's superdelegate lead.


Okay ... here's what I don't understand about this argument ... maybe you can help me out!

All of this "Hillary said this ..." and "Hillary did that ..." and "Hillary claims that she ...." and "Her camp made the statement that ..." and "She told people that Barack was/was not ..." whatever (fill in the blanks) kind of questioning really doesn't make any sense to me!

I mean ... we're involved in a nationwide election here, folks ... with somebody trying to become the persident of the United States!! Eek Is Hillary (or Barack for that matter) really supposed to say that she's not better than her opponent?? Confused Is her camp supposed to tout all of Barack's strengths and accomplishment and say what a good president he would make? Confused

I mean, c'mon!!! Even the city dog catcher candidate will say he's better than the next guy!! So, is Hillary really supposed to roll over and not try to exploit her opponent's weaknesses (real or perceived) in an effort to show herself as the better choice? Confused How many of you go and tell an audience how much better your opponent is than you? 19

I'm not disputing low blows and ill-conceived attacks ... that clearly Clinton is launching and Barack is not. I get that. But this, "Did you hear Hillary said that Barack is not a better president than me" stuff is elementary school. We need to grow up and realize that this is a major election, here. It's serious business. And focusing on the petty stuff is making the big issues fly right over our heads.

And speaking of issues ... not one of them is addressing ANY of those. Both candidates go out into those hordes of people and regurgitate those same old "What America needs" speeches, but neither one of them offers any details about how what they're going to do is going to make things better for ME They talk about each other, they talk about what Bush has done, what McCain is probably going to do ... but neither candidate is putting out there what's really important. And don't get me started on what neither one of them is NOT saying in regards to benefiting Black America! nono

Lastly, yes Hillary started out as the major favorite, and her current 'last man standing' opponent unknown and not registered on any political radar when this whole thing started. BUT ... her losing political positioning is not merely a factor of her dropping in popularity ... BUT .. it is due more to Barack's GAINING in popularity and support because of his own means and by him being who he is!! It's a preference of the people for Barack that has propelling him into the high level of popularity and support he is enjoying now.

You need to give the boy a little of his own credit ... instead of trying to find ways to justify being able to say more and more nasty things about Hillary! I mean, he IS your dog in the race ... can't you say his 'come from behind victory' stems from what's good about him instead of what's bad about Hill??
Ummm .. no. Obviously not, huh? Roll Eyes


~But, that's just it. That's what "spin" is. The situation can be worded in either way. Depending on who is doing the talking, it's going to accentuate the positive of one, and the negative of the other. "Win" begins to mean "lost", and vice versa, depending on who ya' ask.

And then there's always the "third story" that just presents the facts PERIOD with NO DETECTABLE LEANINGS. That's supposed to be where the media comes in. Roll Eyes*smirk* Roll Eyes Fat chance of that happening.~


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All of this "Hillary said this ..." and "Hillary did that ..." and "Hillary claims that she ...." and "Her camp made the statement that ..." and "She told people that Barack was/was not ..." whatever (fill in the blanks) kind of questioning really doesn't make any sense to me!


Wait a minute. This does not compute. All of this "Hillary said this..." and "Hillary did that..." came about because "Hillary" was the first one to start throwing punches and low blows when Barack was simply working hard at trying to prove he's the better candidate. Hillary's camp was the one that came out with this bullshit about Rev. Wright. Hillary's camp was the one that came out with the "Barack is inexperienced" gripe. Hillary's camp was the one that played the Bill card until it hurt Hillary's campaign more than it helped. Hillary's camp was the one that started the "Hussein" fiasco and circulated the pics of Barack in African attire. Hillary was the one that kept digging in Obama's sides with the low blow statements until her own supporters started heckling her. Need I go on?


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No, that won't be necessary, thank you! girl

Again ... I am not trying to dispute the fact that Hillary has run a low-down campaign at times. (Although I do take issue with a couple of those things on your list which are attributed to her but which were actually perpetrated by somebody else - outside of her *camp*! But, that's another thread!)

My point is that in running in as big as election as this is, touting one's reasonings of why you are a better candidate than your opponent is to be expected. The media *spins* a lot of these stories to make them seem more drastic or vicious than they really are. Hillary trying to convince people that Barack is "inexperienced" is a campaign tactic .. that anybody in her position should use.

Now, the truth of it (or not) should be something the voters decide for themselves ... and it's not that hard to decipher fact from fiction. But, just saying "I'm better than the next guy" isn't anything sinister! And ... there is enough to be upset with Hillary about without making stuff up ... which clearly the media does to stir up controversy!! Eek I think we need to stop ingesting so much of what the media is trying to force feed us .. and start concentrating more on what's important!

That's all I'm sayin'!


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