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Originally posted by ricardomath:

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Originally posted by ac9311:
Frankly, I don't need O'reilly or anyone else to formulate an opinion for me. I know what I see and go through right here in North Texas.

Furthermore, I don't have a single problem with legal immigration. I have a huge problem with illegal immigration.

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Illegal aliens do not have any allegiance to black people.

Where's your allegience to Black people? You seek to divide Black folks along lines of citizen vs non-citizen, along lines of documented vs undocumented.

It takes some gall for you to sit there and attack other Black folks for being undocumented, while at the same time complaining that they don't unite with you while you attack them with your idiotic stereotypes and ignorance.

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They are transient people.

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I have a solution for that, they can take their family with them.

Why don't you leave and take your family with you.

Then, and only then, will you have any semblance of moral authority to tell others to do the same.

As for us...we'll leave when we're fvckin' good and ready. Not on your schedule...

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Originally posted by zodo:
Immigrants, whether illegal or not, do not come to America to join us in any "Civil Rights" struggle they are here primarily for financial/ educational gain.

If America isn't to their liking they have the option of returning home; A.A.'s never will have this option and whether we like it or not we are tragedically intertwined into the spinal cord of America.

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
hold up...

Did this white man just question a black person's allegiance to black people?

as if...

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Originally posted by ricardomath:

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Originally posted by ac9311:
Frankly, I don't need O'reilly or anyone else to formulate an opinion for me. I know what I see and go through right here in North Texas.

Furthermore, I don't have a single problem with legal immigration. I have a huge problem with illegal immigration.

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Illegal aliens do not have any allegiance to black people.

ricardomess: Where's your allegience to Black people? You seek to divide Black folks along lines of citizen vs non-citizen, along lines of documented vs undocumented.

fabulous: YOU are 'seeing' things, ricardomess, cause the brother said NOTHING about 'not' having allegiance to black people, what he SAID was: 'ILLEGAL ALIENS DO NOT HAVE ALLEGIENCE TO BLACK PEOPLE' AND WE ALL KNOW THE MAJORITY OF ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE 'MEXICAN' NOT BLACK.

ricardomess:It takes some gall for you to sit there and attack other Black folks for being undocumented, while at the same time complaining that they don't unite with you while you attack them with your idiotic stereotypes and ignorance.

fabulous: It takes some GALL for a white man to come on a black message board and attack a BLACK PERSON for having an opinion. ace9311 did not attack other black folks, he addessed the ILLEGAL ALIEN issue... which...HE is ...just as entitiled...as YOU are...to comment on.

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They are transient people.

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I have a solution for that, they can take their family with them.

ricardomess: Why don't you leave and take your family with you.

fabulous: YOU FIRST!

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ricardomess: Then, and only then, will you have any semblance of moral authority to tell others to do the same.

fabulous: So says the white man....and we ALL know how MUCH the white man will LIE to get what he wants.

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ricardomess: As for us...we'll leave when we're fvckin' good and ready. Not on your schedule...

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Originally posted by ZAKAR:
why do you even acknowledge the dude!!

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Originally posted by ZAKAR:
cool!

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Originally posted by EbonyRose:

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Originally posted by zodo:
Immigrants, whether illegal or not, do not come to America to join us in any "Civil Rights" struggle they are here primarily for financial/ educational gain.

If America isn't to their liking they have the option of returning home; A.A.'s never will have this option and whether we like it or not we are tragedically intertwined into the spinal cord of America.

You know, zodo ...

That's why I don't understand those people that say, "Well, White people don't want us here" or "We have no say what goes on here" or, as MBM alluded to, "We're only here to be exploited"!!

And, I'm like (and excuse my French, but..) And what the hell does that mean ... or matter??

We are the fabric of America!! Our ancestors certainly didn't have the luxury of being willingly migrated into this country ... but they sure as hell sewed themselves and us into it!! And nobody can unweave us out!! We let ourselves be picked at and picked on but, just because they don't want us here doesn't mean we don't belong. We have every right to be named as a part of this (screwed up) American ideal ... and yet, we act like when they tell us to go sit down in a corner ... like we've really gotta go!! [insert head-rolling smilie here!!]

We are the ones that should be telling them to "GO SIT DOWN" somewhere ... and we actually do do that, when those of us who are not afraid to stand our ground continue to succeed and achieve and press forward to bring equality to this crazy @$$ nation! They don't really deserve our contribution ... but, we were brought here and forced to participate ... so, what we do, we do for ourselves as much as it may benefit others!

But .. far too many of us cower before the White man's power and think he holds all the cards and we should just be good little darkies and not cause no problems for them and ourselves!! Thank God people like Malcolm and Martin didn't have that attitude ... or we wouldn't be where we are today! But, what we should be doing now is showing our own strength with the power that we have accumulated over the past 4 centuries .. harnessed within our own communities, and forwarding our own agenda to our benefit first and foremost!!

Because it's true ... ain't nobody else trying to help us do nothin'!!! And we waste precious time and energy trying to worry about helping others do what they are eventually going to do for themselves anyway!! Because for some reason, most other ethnic groups of people seem to be much more cohesive and able to unify and genuinely help each other to rise above hardship and trials and tribulations. But not us. Not only will we not help each other out, but we seem to hold ourselves back as well!!

Incredible. But sadly true.

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Originally posted by Fabulous:

fabulous: Nah, you'll leave BEFORE THEN & sooner then you think....particularly once the laws for illegal entry [already on the books] are ENFORCED. Now take your 'fvckin' good and ready' and chew on DAT.

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Originally posted by ricardomath:

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Originally posted by Fabulous:

fabulous: Nah, you'll leave BEFORE THEN & sooner then you think....particularly once the laws for illegal entry [already on the books] are ENFORCED. Now take your 'fvckin' good and ready' and chew on DAT.

Making threats that you can't carry out only makes you look foolish...kinda' like your soul-mate Lofton, I guess...

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Originally posted by zodo:

So very true E/R but I must maintain that we will eventually overcome ourselves one day, an uphill task indeed.

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Originally posted by Fabulous:

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Originally posted by ZAKAR:
why do you even acknowledge the dude!!

Sometimes I acknowledge him and sometimes I don't...

right now I 'do' because I WANT TO. . .and unless MBM tells me different, I will continue to respond to posts of my OWN choosing.

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Originally posted by ricardomath:

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Illegal aliens do not have any allegiance to black people.

Where's your allegience to Black people? You seek to divide Black folks along lines of citizen vs non-citizen, along lines of documented vs undocumented.
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My allegiance is to "BLACK PEOPLE" only. It is written all over my face. It's in my blood. It lives in my heart. I don't seek to divide anyone, that was done for me 360 years ago. Stop being politically correct. It's illegal alien not undocumented. Documented is an American/resident citizen.

Furthermore, illegal aliens are dividing themselves from everyone else. First, by coming here illegally Demanding social services (which they do receive).

Expecting me to pay for their child's education.

Expecting me to feed their child at lunch on the free lunch program.

Closing down county hospitals by not paying (see California).

Press 1 for English, press 2 for Spanish.

Crashing into peoples cars without insurance and running. Causing my premiums to be sky high.

I don't recall any documentation or an option for Fulani, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa or Songhay. If you know of any, holla at a brotha'.

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It takes some gall for you to sit there and attack other Black folks for being undocumented, while at the same time complaining that they don't unite with you while you attack them with your idiotic stereotypes and ignorance.
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I haven't attacked anyone. If I have, please show me the quote in which I did. I'm not complaining about the fact that they don't unite with us, or anyone else for that matter. It's just the plain and simple fact. They are clanish. If you can disprove that fact please do.

What undocumented black folks did I refer to? You need to re-read my post sir. What I posted was not a stereotype it is a fact. It's ignorant to you because you can't prove me wrong.

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I have a solution for that, they can take their family with them.

Why don't you leave and take your family with you.
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News Flash. I was born here. My ancestors who were stolen from their homeland built this country. They died for me to have the right to tell you and anyone else to .......!


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Then, and only then, will you have any semblance of moral authority to tell others to do the same.
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My great great Grandfather, gave me the moral authority when he picked Mr. Charlie's cotton in Arkansas the 1820's.

I was given the moral authority when my great, great Grandmother was raped by Mr. Charlie in the slave shack in Lexington KY. And all her husband could do was keep his head up and train Mr. Charlie's horses.

I was given the moral authority when in 1945, 7 of my grandmother's siblings were murdered by a white man who thought it was funny to run some black folk off the road in Fort Worth TX.

Now, to reiterate what I said before " I have absolutely no, not some, not alittle bit, not even a ski-tay bit of sympathy for them or their plight". If you don't like it tough.

What you fail to understand is, African Americans have been suffering ever since our ancestors set foot on this foreign land. And every carpetbagger ( illegal aliens being the most recent) that needs help wants to try and draw comparisons between us and them to our detriment.


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As for us...we'll leave when we're fvckin' good and ready.
Not on your schedule...

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Originally posted by zodo:
I must maintain that we will eventually overcome ourselves one day, an uphill task indeed.

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by ricardomath:

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Originally posted by ac9311:
Frankly, I don't need O'reilly or anyone else to formulate an opinion for me. I know what I see and go through right here in North Texas.

Furthermore, I don't have a single problem with legal immigration. I have a huge problem with illegal immigration.

quote:

Illegal aliens do not have any allegiance to black people.

Where's your allegience to Black people? You seek to divide Black folks along lines of citizen vs non-citizen, along lines of documented vs undocumented.

It takes some gall for you to sit there and attack other Black folks for being undocumented, while at the same time complaining that they don't unite with you while you attack them with your idiotic stereotypes and ignorance.

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They are transient people.

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I have a solution for that, they can take their family with them.

Why don't you leave and take your family with you.

Then, and only then, will you have any semblance of moral authority to tell others to do the same.

As for us...we'll leave when we're fvckin' good and ready. Not on your schedule...

hold up...

Did this white man just question a black person's allegiance to black people?

as if...

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Originally posted by ac9311:
"I don't recall any documentation or an option for Fulani, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa or Songhay. If you know of any, holla at a brotha'."

"My great great Grandfather, gave me the moral authority when he picked Mr. Charlie's cotton in Arkansas the 1820's.

I was given the moral authority when my great, great Grandmother was raped by Mr. Charlie in the slave shack in Lexington KY. And all her husband could do was keep his head up and train Mr. Charlie's horses.

I was given the moral authority when in 1945, 7 of my grandmother's siblings were murdered by a white man who thought it was funny to run some black folk off the road in Fort Worth TX."

"I know it's painful. If you swallow real hard, that lump in your throat goes away. My mother use to always say that the truth hurts.

From now on, everytime you walk past an African American, you need to drop to your knees and thank our ancestors for dying for the freedoms that you and illegals covet and exploit.

They paved the way for you and your brethren to stow away across the southern border and misinterpret the 14th amendment.

Adios

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Fighting the 'good fight', with this "CIA operative' wannabe'. the bytch.