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I glanced just briefly at his voting record for my list of priorities. I will have to look at it closer to see if it is enough for me to cast my vote for this ticket. Right now it's still a toss up.


____________________________________________________
Got no love for politicians
Or that crazy scene in D.C.
It's just a power mad town
But the time is ripe for changes
There's a growing feeling
That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

I used to trust the media
To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
(There's a) Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through



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I glanced just briefly at his voting record for my list of priorities. I will have to look at it closer to see if it is enough for me to cast my vote for this ticket. Right now it's still a toss up.


Well, what's your alternative?




 
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Now it is done.

Senator Joseph Biden.

I am pleased.

I think Senator Biden is the 'good choice'.

The best choice.

Now a President Obama...doesn't that sound just great?...doesn't have worry first about who will guard his coffee when Senator Clinton is in the room, and second what to do with 'Bill'.

PEACE

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African Americans for African America
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African American
Pledge of Unity

We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America.

© James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008

You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
 
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I think that it will prove to be a good choice. It is a prudent pick, not necessarily a courageous or bold pick, but a solid one.


yeah Bidden fills in Obama's foreign/military gaps. [Message to the electorate: Climb on board independents and let's make some sense out of this mess.]
 
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I'm happy with the pick, I learned more about Biden after much commentary about him in the news.

A wise and experienced pit bull VP is an asset for Obama. Biden is really modest compared to most of the lifestyles of other senators I think that is special.
 
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Senator Joseph Biden


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Now it is done.

Senator Joseph Biden.

I am pleased.

I think Senator Biden is the 'good choice'.

The best choice.

I agree.

But I'm curious about MBM's take on this pick. 19


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I glanced just briefly at his voting record for my list of priorities. I will have to look at it closer to see if it is enough for me to cast my vote for this ticket. Right now it's still a toss up.


Well, what's your alternative?


I have to see who McCain chooses. I don't consider either a powerful choice so I will be voting and hoping for the best based on both tickets record on the issues I see as important.


____________________________________________________
Got no love for politicians
Or that crazy scene in D.C.
It's just a power mad town
But the time is ripe for changes
There's a growing feeling
That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

I used to trust the media
To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
(There's a) Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through



catch
 
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I glanced just briefly at his voting record for my list of priorities. I will have to look at it closer to see if it is enough for me to cast my vote for this ticket. Right now it's still a toss up.


Well, what's your alternative?


I have to see who McCain chooses. I don't consider either a powerful choice so I will be voting and hoping for the best based on both tickets record on the issues I see as important.


What are your primary issues? It's unusual to see someone choosing between Obama and McCain - they represent such fundamentally different choices.

Weren't you against the Iraq War?




 
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I glanced just briefly at his voting record for my list of priorities. I will have to look at it closer to see if it is enough for me to cast my vote for this ticket. Right now it's still a toss up.


Well, what's your alternative?


I have to see who McCain chooses. I don't consider either a powerful choice so I will be voting and hoping for the best based on both tickets record on the issues I see as important.


What are your primary issues? It's unusual to see someone choosing between Obama and McCain - they represent such fundamentally different choices.

Weren't you against the Iraq War?


Initially I was for the war based on the reasoning we were going to stop Bin Laden and further atacks. After I got over there and the story started changing my support for the powers that sent us and the war declined.

I was against the surge as I believe if war is declared we should go in 100%. None of this "civilized" war BS. If we had went in without the arogance from chaney, rumsfeld and the rest of the armchair commandos and laptop bombadiers a lot of lives would have been saved.

As far as my issues
1. A strong defense
2. Immigration
3. Double standards for politicans, political reform
4. Education
5. Affirmative action
6. Economy and loss of jobs abroad

No particular order and I'm sure I'll think of something later.


____________________________________________________
Got no love for politicians
Or that crazy scene in D.C.
It's just a power mad town
But the time is ripe for changes
There's a growing feeling
That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

I used to trust the media
To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
(There's a) Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through



catch
 
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I glanced just briefly at his voting record for my list of priorities. I will have to look at it closer to see if it is enough for me to cast my vote for this ticket. Right now it's still a toss up.


Well, what's your alternative?


Sadly, this will probably be the third time in a row that this very question is the main/only reason I cast my vote for the Democratic nominee for president. sck

I voted for Bill Clinton because I really wanted to. Every vote since then as been because I had no choice.


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Sadly, this will probably be the third time in a row that this very question is the main/only reason I cast my vote for the Democratic nominee for president. sck

I voted for Bill Clinton because I really wanted to. Every vote since then as been because I had no choice.


You voted for BC because you "really wanted to" - yet he screwed and abused black people at every turn. What evidence do you have that BO will somehow be a worse president that him? Confused




 
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I claim no loyalty to any party. I base my decisions on what I consider important and who I feel will meet those needs the best.

Since my opinion of all politicans is very low, I'm not looking for anyone to be perfect just keep things somewhat level.

Given that, Obama is not automatically getting my vote ( my card was not returned from the last time is was confiscated so asking me to turn it in is a waste). tongue

I don't like either candidate or their constant flip flopping. I wish more people looked at the issues rather than party affiliation, then maybe we would have a viable candidate.


____________________________________________________
Got no love for politicians
Or that crazy scene in D.C.
It's just a power mad town
But the time is ripe for changes
There's a growing feeling
That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due

I used to trust the media
To tell me the truth, tell us the truth
But now I've seen the payoffs
Everywhere I look
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?

Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Revolution calling you
(There's a) Revolution calling
Revolution calling
Gotta make a change
Gotta push, gotta push it on through



catch
 
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I wish more people looked at the issues rather than party affiliation, then maybe we would have a viable candidate.---ocatchings

And so, the problem.

There is no viable candidate...without a party affiliation.

Now...ain't THAT a 'beach'!!!


PEACE

Jim Chester


African Americans for African America
http://iaanh2.org


African American
Pledge of Unity

We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America.

© James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008

You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
 
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Sadly, this will probably be the third time in a row that this very question is the main/only reason I cast my vote for the Democratic nominee for president. sck

I voted for Bill Clinton because I really wanted to. Every vote since then as been because I had no choice.


You voted for BC because you "really wanted to" - yet he screwed and abused black people at every turn. What evidence do you have that BO will somehow be a worse president that him? Confused


I didn't say I thought he would be a worse president! Smile I said that I have no enthusiasm for voting for him ... and that I will be voting for him because I have to, not because I want to.

Don't get me wrong, MBM. IMO, Barack is a nice guy, and I don't dislike him, I would just rather have a different choice as far as voting for a president. While I know he would be better at running the country than any Republican would/could, especially at this point in time, I don't consider him the best or most qualified person for job. He's only the best person available, which is a different thing.

I also think that should he get the job, he will do an adequate job of it. He certainly can't be the worst president we've every had. He may also be an extraordinary president ... there's no way to tell, so, I'm not discounting that as a possibility, either. I just don't know.

On a personal level, for the type of person I would like as a president, though, I'm not happy with many aspects of his policy agenda - they just happen to be better than the alternative. I'm not thrilled with the way he's handled controversy - he's just better than the alternative. He's also made questionable decisions throughout his campaign. But, the other guy offers a less desirable choice.

When I voted for Bill Clinton, I didn't know he would *screw and abuse Black people at every turn* as you put it, just like when you vote for Obama in November, you don't know that he won't ultimately do the same. I do know life was happy and prosperous for me during that time, though. There was good things and bad things that came out it as a whole, I suppose.



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"I mean you've got the first, sort of, mainstream African American who is articulate and bright, and..., and a clean and nice looking guy. I mean it's...that's a storybook, man."
**************************************************
moderator: WHEN ASKED IF OBAMA WAS READY FOR THE PRESIDENCY, you said:

Biden: "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

Moderator: And now?

Biden: I think I stand by the statement."

*************************************************

Biden: "I would be honored to run WITH or against John McCain. I think the country would be better off."


---- VP Pick, Biden, Josep.


~ 19 So.... Confused....Hillary as VP gives you pause...????.....but,.... Confused...not Biden.... Confused

Whatever. Roll Eyes What hypocrites. And Obama is Hypocrite In Chief. He opened his campaign with the war vote being the only REAL difference in platform from Hillary, and never let her forget it. He USED THAT to set himself apart apart as better than her because of that faulty judgement call. Then turns around in the end and picks a VP, Joseph Biden, that ALSO showed faulty judgement because he ALSO voted for the war. What a joke. He sold his soul to the devil to garner the white catholic vote via Biden. Guess he said, "fugg Hillary's 18 million votes. I don't need 'em." What an idiot. Who the hell is advising him? No matter what Hillary says to her MALE AND female supporters, they (we) are not stupid. If Obama were the least bit interested in party unity as much as they are putting the whole brunt of the effort on Hillary's shoulders to be, then he would have made the half-assed gesture of offering the VP slot to her so that she could turn it down. THAT would have done a lot for the morale of the disaffected voters. But, nooooooooo....that would have made too much sense. Instead, he decides to flipflop and bend over, and expects Hillary to clean up the mess because her political career depends on how well she soothes and smoothes things over. She's already given the most humble concession speech in political history, but, that's not enough. She must now slide down to her knees, undo his zipper, and take him in the mouth. "Full-throated support!" is what the crowd screams for...."Or else!" What a joke this whole thing has turned out to be. And it's just the beginning. munch

Hillary, go on and say whatever you need to say in Denver for the sake of party unity, and alladat. In the meantime, we'll keep it real for you on the ground. Let's just get his shit over with already Roll Eyes.

2012 it'll be Hillary vs. Cynthia. Enough with the political games that men play.~


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tell your sons and daughters
what the struggle brings
Black Butterfly, set the skies on fire
rise up even higher
so the ageless winds of time can catch your wings ----Deniece Williams
 
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"I mean you've got the first, sort of, mainstream African American who is articulate and bright, and..., and a clean and nice looking guy. I mean it's...that's a storybook, man."
**************************************************
moderator: WHEN ASKED IF OBAMA WAS READY FOR THE PRESIDENCY, you said:

Biden: "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

Moderator: And now?

Biden: I think I stand by the statement."

*************************************************

Biden: "I would be honored to run WITH or against John McCain. I think the country would be better off."


---- VP Pick, Biden, Josep.


~ 19 So.... Confused....Hillary as VP gives you pause...????.....but,.... Confused...not Biden.... Confused

Whatever. Roll Eyes What hypocrites. And Obama is Hypocrite In Chief. He opened his campaign with the war vote being the only REAL difference in platform from Hillary, and never let her forget it. He USED THAT to set himself apart apart as better than her because of that faulty judgement call. Then turns around in the end and picks a VP, Joseph Biden, that ALSO showed faulty judgement because he ALSO voted for the war. What a joke. He sold his soul to the devil to garner the white catholic vote via Biden. Guess he said, "fugg Hillary's 18 million votes. I don't need 'em." What an idiot. Who the hell is advising him. No matter what Hillary says to her MALE AND female supporters, they (we) are not stupid. If Obama were the least bit interested in party unity as much as they are putting the whole brunt
 
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"I mean you've got the first, sort of, mainstream African American who is articulate and bright, and..., and a clean and nice looking guy. I mean it's...that's a storybook, man."
**************************************************
moderator: WHEN ASKED IF OBAMA WAS READY FOR THE PRESIDENCY, you said:

Biden: "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."

Moderator: And now?

Biden: I think I stand by the statement."

*************************************************

Biden: "I would be honored to run WITH or against John McCain. I think the country would be better off."


---- VP Pick, Biden, Josep.


~ 19 So.... Confused....Hillary as VP gives you pause...????.....but,.... Confused...not Biden.... Confused

Whatever. Roll Eyes What hypocrites. And Obama is Hypocrite In Chief. He opened his campaign with the war vote being the only REAL difference in platform from Hillary, and never let her forget it. He USED THAT to set himself apart apart as better than her because of that faulty judgement call. Then turns around in the end and picks a VP, Joseph Biden, that ALSO showed faulty judgement because he ALSO voted for the war. What a joke. He sold his soul to the devil to garner the white catholic vote via Biden. Guess he said, "fugg Hillary's 18 million votes. I don't need 'em." What an idiot. Who the hell is advising him. No matter what Hillary says to her MALE AND female supporters, they (we) are not stupid. If Obama were the least bit interested in party unity as much as they are putting the whole brunt


Your girl Hillary lost. GET OVER IT!


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A race of people is like an individual man: until it uses it's own talent, takes pride in it's own history, expresses it's own culture, affirms it's own selfhood, it can never fulfill itself.

El Hajj Malik Shabazz aka Malcolm X---

I wish I'd said that.

PEACE

Jim Chester


African Americans for African America
http://iaanh2.org


African American
Pledge of Unity

We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America.

© James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008

You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are.
 
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