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D4 |
Well, where I come from..
Social ECONOMICS: One more black child adopted by white parents means, that child is more likely to have a better EDU, and that means what child is more likely to NOT be on the streets, and that means, that child is more likely NOT to rob me on my way home from work, and that means my neighborhood/neighboors are SAFER, and that means my property values GO UP, and that means JAIL POPULATIONS GO DOWN, and that means TAXES MONEY goes somewhere ELSE where it is more readily needed. |
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D5 |
Hello! I am a white mother that has recently adopted a black child from the fostercare system. I found this site on the journey of educating myself! I must admit I do not always understand the bitterness associated with the issue. We approached the foster adopt system open minded to any match. We always wanted a big family and have a ton of love to go around.
We believe Love concours everything! I was actually asked by a parent at school if I was going to raise him white or black!?! I simply answered We will raise him in love! I am mindful of coultural differences as our polish and italian family coultures, also. We celebrate all the coultures and plan to include our new 3 year olds as well! We can only do our best! We live in a diverse neighborhood. I have my coultural supprt people so Kevin always is in touch with who he is. and all 4 of the kids Including myself are taking african dance lessons. (It is a sight to see! LOL) I guess the point of what I was trying to say is at 3 years old Kevin has been in 4 homes. Now he is forever with us no matter what and through thick and thin! I have a hard time understanding why there is such an issue over race. How could his situation have been better than living with us. How could he have grown up to be a stong man in an unstable environment never truely bonding with anyone and the uncertainty of his future.? We love him madly and fell in love with him the minute we met him! We are very lucky to have him and know he will be in the most loving home! To me that is the bottum line! LOVE I think if we all loved each other a little more this might not even be a topic for discussion!
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A1 |
We believe Love concours everything! I was actually asked by a parent at school if I was going to raise him white or black!?! I simply answered We will raise him in love!---Cathy
I am not against a European family adopting a child of African ancestry, known or unknown. I suppose it is telling that I have not said the I am 'for' such adoption. I just haven't gotten there yet. I extracted the quote above because it demonstrates the fragilness of the circumstance. I am from the 'camp' that says a child, no person, should be taught or referred to in manner that says his/her color is who he/she is. That is the foundation of America's racism...even when it is delivered with sincere love. If your family is 'Polish' and 'Italian', please don't teach the child that he is simply 'black'. African American would be nice. Certainly it is accurate if he is the descendant of America's slavery. And...African, alone, does not 'cut it'. Africa is a continent offering little distinction in the way of identity. PEACE Jim Chester African Americans for African America http://iaanh2.org African American Pledge of Unity We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America. © James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008 You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are. |
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B1 |
It is a tragic situation. And, in the final analysis, our ancestors are going to hold us responsible for allowing our children to be raised by our enemy.
Moreover, allowing whites to raise our children will create future generations of Black folks unwilling to work against white supremacy. Africans in amerikkka are already pathologically in love with white people and their culutres... what better way to ensure white supremacy than to have our children socialized under the hierarchy of white family structures? No matter how you slice it, sending African children into the homes of white people is a process that upholds and reaffirms white supremacy. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN CHILDREN!!!!! AND NOT ALLOW WHITE FOLKS - REGARDLESS OF THE CHILD'S CONDITION - TO RAISE BLACK AFRICAN CHILDREN. Black Child's Pledge I pledge allegiance to my Black People. I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible. I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation. I will keep myself physically fit, building a strong body free from drugs and other substances which weaken me and make me less capable of protecting myself, my family and my Black brothers and sisters. I will unselfishly share my knowledge and understanding with them in order to bring about change more quickly. I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred. I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters for I recognize that we need every Black Man, Woman, and Child to be physically, mentally and psychologically strong. These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People. The Black Panther, October 26, 1968 by Shirley Williams http://graphics8.nytimes.com/p...1019EVA/25145435.JPG |
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WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN CHILDREN!!!!! AND NOT ALLOW WHITE FOLKS - REGARDLESS OF THE CHILD'S CONDITION - TO RAISE BLACK AFRICAN CHILDREN.---Shango67
I agree with the 'need' part. I also agree, in fact insist, that, without such an alternative, every child deserves the best alternative. African Americans for African America http://iaanh2.org African American Pledge of Unity We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America. © James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008 You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are. |
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D5 |
"for allowing our children to be raised by our enemy."
Your Hatred saddens me! I came to this sight for insight. I truely pray that non of my children grow up with the hate and bitterness you harbor in your soul. There are so many children of all races stuck in the system! I am curious to know how many you adopted?!
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B1 |
And you got it. There are plenty of Black folk on this SITE who are willing to hold your hand and sing plenty of negro spirtuals with you. Enjoy Black Child's Pledge I pledge allegiance to my Black People. I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible. I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation. I will keep myself physically fit, building a strong body free from drugs and other substances which weaken me and make me less capable of protecting myself, my family and my Black brothers and sisters. I will unselfishly share my knowledge and understanding with them in order to bring about change more quickly. I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred. I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters for I recognize that we need every Black Man, Woman, and Child to be physically, mentally and psychologically strong. These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People. The Black Panther, October 26, 1968 by Shirley Williams http://graphics8.nytimes.com/p...1019EVA/25145435.JPG |
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B1 |
I care less about OTHER children stuck in the system. Moreover, the SYSTEM serves the OTHERS and OPPRESSES the African child. And like it or not, your adoption of African children is inherently OPPRESSIVE unless you make as much effort as possible to socialize those children as BLACK PEOPLE. To do otherwise, especially considering the current state of affairs of BLACK BOYS, is CRIMINAL. If you LOVE those boys, you had better start teaching them that white folks are the most dangerous people on this planet and their survival depends upon understanding how white supremacy works. Black Child's Pledge I pledge allegiance to my Black People. I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible. I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation. I will keep myself physically fit, building a strong body free from drugs and other substances which weaken me and make me less capable of protecting myself, my family and my Black brothers and sisters. I will unselfishly share my knowledge and understanding with them in order to bring about change more quickly. I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred. I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters for I recognize that we need every Black Man, Woman, and Child to be physically, mentally and psychologically strong. These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People. The Black Panther, October 26, 1968 by Shirley Williams http://graphics8.nytimes.com/p...1019EVA/25145435.JPG |
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D5 |
"If you LOVE those boys, you had better start teaching them that white folks are the most dangerous people on this planet and their survival depends upon understanding how white supremacy works."
NO!!!! I will teach them that the Hate you have for people is what keeps people oppressed!! You are more prejudiced than anyone I know! You need to find love! I will pray for you!
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Vanguard |
I'm going to take this extremely rare opportunity and agree with Shango's statement... at least the emboldened part of it. Cathy, the children that you've adopted will need to understand the system of White supremacy in order to survive. You can't teach them about this. They will need other Black people in their lives to learn it. They can't learn about it from you, but you can learn about it from them. If you care about them, you will make sure that happens. However, there is a very important aspect of your situation that Shango understands fully, but conveniently left out. The "system" that you refer to that cycles the children with no parents, is nearly completely run by the White supremacist order. In my view, those Black children are much better off being cared for by an individual White family who loves them... then by the White supremacist order that will never care if they live, starve, or die.
Ubuntu - I am what I am, because of who we all are. "Peace is not merely the absence of tension, it is the presence of justice." - MLK www.PersonalSafetyInstitute.org |
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D5 |
Viking, I can appreciate what you are saying. I do understand my son will have different experiences in life that I will never be able to understand! Let's not forget I came to this site to educate myself! I am sensative to the fact that our family will have many hurdles ahead of us. I didn't go into the adoption lightly and truely thought about the struggles he will face, we will face and the other children will face. The fact is we are loving people who want to open our hearts to a child (of any race) who needed a loving family and would be there no matter what! It wasn't a "race" thing, but we thought about it deeply. I truely came to this sight out of love and willingness to do what ever I have to do for my son!
I am not fooling myself into thinking I am the best to teach him about his heritage. however I want to do the best I can. I already have several people who will be our cultural support people. I value opinions that are not filled with hate! I am not a hateful person. I feel hatred will not solve anything. We all have to keep an open mind if we want a peaceful world! Thank You I value opinions and comments that are not filled with hatred.
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Vanguard |
That's good! But, they are young yet. Don't forget what you wrote here as they grow older.
That's good! Make sure that you read... a lot! There is much that you can learn here.
Well of course not. If it was a race thing you would have adopted White children.
OK, not knowing anything about you... I have to qualify a few things. Are you Americans... in America? If so, if your children are African American, and if those "several people" are African American... then that's good. Hold on to those people like a pit bull. Your children need them. Ubuntu - I am what I am, because of who we all are. "Peace is not merely the absence of tension, it is the presence of justice." - MLK www.PersonalSafetyInstitute.org |
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D5 |
"OK, not knowing anything about you... I have to qualify a few things. Are you Americans... in America?"
Yes they are! I thank you again! I will keep reading and doing whatever it is I need to do to be the best partent I can... for all my children! "their survival depends upon understanding how white supremacy works" I will continue to try to understand exactly what is meant and how this effects all people!. I will continue to pray for a peaceful world where all people are treated fairly and will do my part to make it happen!! If so, if your children are African American, and if those "several people" are African American... then that's good. Hold on to those people like a pit bull. Your children need them.
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Vanguard |
Good.  Ubuntu - I am what I am, because of who we all are. "Peace is not merely the absence of tension, it is the presence of justice." - MLK www.PersonalSafetyInstitute.org |
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D5 |
"And like it or not, your adoption of African children is inherently OPPRESSIVE unless you make as much effort as possible to socialize those children as BLACK PEOPLE"
Shango, I must admit your statements were prevoking alot of anger from me. That the anger got in the way of the message. After rereading i got a different message! That is my plan and I have african american support group and will do my very best! I came here to read and to educate myself so I can be the parent I can! Some of the statements were getting me upset and I felt I was being lumped in a general catagory! I fear that can be dangerous too! We all need to see the best intentions of people and maybe someday there can be peace and understanding! I will continue to read and to try to understand what I am reading in the hopes to raise my children as well rounded as I possibly can! Thank you for your insight!
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C4 |
I agree with your general statement but monst Black kids do not commit crime, poor kids commit crime, uneducated kids commit crime and then they grow up to be uneducated people who have no life skills thus commit crime. In my neighborhood here in Jersey we have white homeless people, they are poor, they are uneducated and they commit crime. I am afraid of people who have nothing to live for an thus commit crime. |
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B1 |
Cathy... this is the problem. Black folks don't have the time or inlclination look for the best intentions of white folks - and white people certainly haven't earned the benefit of the doubt. In other words, race relationships in this country is a one-sided event - oppressor vs. oppressed. Africans in amerikkka and around the world have given the world the blueprint toward economic, political, and social justice. Whites have ignored our teachings. We don't have to do a damn thing! Black Child's Pledge I pledge allegiance to my Black People. I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible. I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation. I will keep myself physically fit, building a strong body free from drugs and other substances which weaken me and make me less capable of protecting myself, my family and my Black brothers and sisters. I will unselfishly share my knowledge and understanding with them in order to bring about change more quickly. I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred. I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters for I recognize that we need every Black Man, Woman, and Child to be physically, mentally and psychologically strong. These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People. The Black Panther, October 26, 1968 by Shirley Williams http://graphics8.nytimes.com/p...1019EVA/25145435.JPG |
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Phoenix Rising |
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D5 |
Shango,
I am not sure why but you intrigue me. I'm not quite sure you care. However, I do want to try to understand you! I guess I am troubled with some of your statements because not all of the white people have the attitude you describe. And It saddens me to think I try hard my whole life to be fair and pass that on. I grew up learning from my parents that everyone should be treated equal (I understand this doesn't happen), but I was tought it should! I get sad to think despite how I feel or what I believe in I will be misunderstood. This is strictly on a personal level... not political, religious.. strictly personal.. I guess what I don't understand is how can things change if we all don't take the time to understand one another. I know this is looking at life through rose colored glasses. But how will things change? Again I mean on a personal level. Because I feel it has to start there. I don't want to waste your time I truely am trying to understand.
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