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Bad Mother Fucker |
You ain't in Seattle anymore Toto!!
Welcome to the east, my brother to the east! Peace, AudioGuy ************************************************* "I am African, not because I was born in Africa; but because Africa was born in me" -Anonymous "The cost of Liberty is less than the cost of repression." -W.E.B. DuBois, John Brown 1909 "... can you imagine Doobie in yo' funk??!!" -G. Clinton Sense is far from COMMON! ... The tragic irony here is that a lot of African Americans may not fully recognize the implications of this decision for years to come. Stop by any barbershop, barbeque or church basement in Black America and you will hear – with distressing frequency – that old canard that "integration" ruined the Black community. William Jelani Cobb ************************************************* |
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Bad Mother Fucker |
You ever wonder why we drive on parkways and park on driveways?(you did say random right?)
Peace, AudioGuy ************************************************* "I am African, not because I was born in Africa; but because Africa was born in me" -Anonymous "The cost of Liberty is less than the cost of repression." -W.E.B. DuBois, John Brown 1909 "... can you imagine Doobie in yo' funk??!!" -G. Clinton Sense is far from COMMON! ... The tragic irony here is that a lot of African Americans may not fully recognize the implications of this decision for years to come. Stop by any barbershop, barbeque or church basement in Black America and you will hear – with distressing frequency – that old canard that "integration" ruined the Black community. William Jelani Cobb ************************************************* |
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A1 |
Two wrongs don't make a right.
But three lefts do. PEACE Jim Chester African Americans for African America http://iaanh2.org African American Pledge of Unity We stand, Together, after left alone in a land we never knew. We Bind ourselves, Together, with the blood and will of Those who have gone before. From the Bodies of our Ancestors thrown away, from the Pieces of Ourselves left to perish, We rise as One, a New Body in a New Land, a New People in a New Nation. Of Common Mind, Body, and Spirit, By Declaration of our Amalgamated Individual and Personal Authorities, We Are African America. © James Wesley Chester 2004; 2008 You are who you say you are. Your children are who you say you are. |
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While visiting in Charlotte, NC., I was in a grocery store where there was pork of some kind in a standlone un-refrigerated bin near the meat counter. Hmm, what kind of pork do they eat and sale in the south that does not require refrigeration? It didn't look smoked.
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Bad Mother Fucker |
quote: That would be the Deathgut brand of pork... no refrigeration required. Peace, AudioGuy ************************************************* "I am African, not because I was born in Africa; but because Africa was born in me" -Anonymous "The cost of Liberty is less than the cost of repression." -W.E.B. DuBois, John Brown 1909 "... can you imagine Doobie in yo' funk??!!" -G. Clinton Sense is far from COMMON! ... The tragic irony here is that a lot of African Americans may not fully recognize the implications of this decision for years to come. Stop by any barbershop, barbeque or church basement in Black America and you will hear – with distressing frequency – that old canard that "integration" ruined the Black community. William Jelani Cobb ************************************************* |
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Founder |
Why is it that people come here and take on fake identities? This is a site that, for the most part, embraces all kinds of positive, productive debate. For example, I have invited and encouraged all perspectives since day one. We've had all manner of members across the entire spectrum of ideology. Why do people feel the need to pretend to be what they are not?
 At the end of the day, you just get "outed" for who you are anyway, and in the process you get embarrassed and lose all credibility. Why not just be who you are? It's OK to be white and active here. It's OK to be conservative. It's OK to think you know more than we do and to try to change our minds on positions that matter to us. It's even OK to be racist. Just be honest!  |
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Bad Mother Fucker |
quote: I think that some of the people on this site know some others and don't want (for what ever reason) the others to know. JMO Peace, AudioGuy ************************************************* "I am African, not because I was born in Africa; but because Africa was born in me" -Anonymous "The cost of Liberty is less than the cost of repression." -W.E.B. DuBois, John Brown 1909 "... can you imagine Doobie in yo' funk??!!" -G. Clinton Sense is far from COMMON! ... The tragic irony here is that a lot of African Americans may not fully recognize the implications of this decision for years to come. Stop by any barbershop, barbeque or church basement in Black America and you will hear – with distressing frequency – that old canard that "integration" ruined the Black community. William Jelani Cobb ************************************************* |
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quote: Whether identities are fake or not... in that same sense of being honest? How come people can't be honest about what they really feel or want to say... or was saying... or was trying to say (imply)... Anyway... that's always bothered me. And gotten me in trouble (knowing or not knowing whether people were being honest).  Sounds like a sticky, MBM. Something to put in the New Members and Issues forums, etc. (warning, information, notice) Who knows if it will help... |
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Founder |
I was speaking less about personal identities, as much as ideological ones. I don't care if people create different names/handles/avatars etc. for themselves. That's cool. To be clear, it's disappointing though when people come here pretending to be black, for example, when they aren't. Over the years I've found it somewhat common for white conservatives to come here and create a facade of a black conservative - in an effort to try to "open our eyes" about things.
They try to tell us how affirmative action and reparations etc. are all not to our benefit. I would so much more appreciate someone saying - "I'm a white conservative. I don't believe in anything that you do and I'll tell you why". Aside from being so much more honest, it would lead to much better debate than the subterfuge of a false identity. |
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Bad Mother Fucker |
I understand your perspective now...
White conserv's have never been honest, if they were there would never have been a watergate, reaganomics, Willie Horton, prez. bush 1 would have not told the country that he bought crack across the street from the white house (one of the most secure spots in the world  ), no 911, no enron, no "war on terrorism", and definetely no "liberation" of Iraq.With a track record like that, and I am not even scratching the surface, how, more importantly, why would you expect them to be honest here? White people have been lying for thousands of years in order to protect their "interests"... you cannot possibly expect them to start telling the truth now. (so that no one is offended, know that I am speaking in general terms) Peace, AudioGuy ************************************************* "I am African, not because I was born in Africa; but because Africa was born in me" -Anonymous "The cost of Liberty is less than the cost of repression." -W.E.B. DuBois, John Brown 1909 "... can you imagine Doobie in yo' funk??!!" -G. Clinton Sense is far from COMMON! ... The tragic irony here is that a lot of African Americans may not fully recognize the implications of this decision for years to come. Stop by any barbershop, barbeque or church basement in Black America and you will hear – with distressing frequency – that old canard that "integration" ruined the Black community. William Jelani Cobb ************************************************* |
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My ex called and my son doesn't have to deploy. He has some medical issues he needs to take care of so he is safe for now. Whenever I deployed I felt it was no problem. When he got his orders I din't like the idea at all. I know as a young man he needs to find his own way in life, so does me not wanting him to go make me a hypocrit?
catch ____________________________________________________ Got no love for politicians Or that crazy scene in D.C. It's just a power mad town But the time is ripe for changes There's a growing feeling That taking a chance on a new kind of vision is due I used to trust the media To tell me the truth, tell us the truth But now I've seen the payoffs Everywhere I look Who do you trust when everyone's a crook? Revolution calling Revolution calling Revolution calling you (There's a) Revolution calling Revolution calling Gotta make a change Gotta push, gotta push it on through catch |
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quote: No, it makes you a caring dad. |
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A1 |
So, true, MBM. So true.
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And, if the medical issues are not too serious, I say great, may they keep him out of harms way, forever.
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quote:I think I understood you from the start. But I will even try to give people the benefit of a doubt (sometimes) on their ethnic identities. But feigning Blackness while speaking Whiteness fluently just doesn't work. It would seem as if they think that since they've read books by Blacks that they somehow have the perfect cover. But beyond that... I have no love for the weasel... People who conveniently change their position or emphasis when they are met with strong opposition on their first proposition... Anyway... I share your frustration, MBM. Randomly... You (MBM) should never think that we question your sincerity. In the midst of debate, sometimes you lose sight that you're down with us. Signed Numero Tres de la Tres Amigos! |
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quote: Although I'm not sure whether it's a concerted effort or not, I do believe that "folks" come here with the sole purpose of stirring shit up and getting the conversation bogged down into ultimately meaningless BS to keep us from serious conversations and developing real solutions for our progress. There are a couple of members here now that I suspect of these ulterior motives. COINTELPRO lives.  |
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quote:What I say to that (knowing I may very well fit into that tangent category) is for those who want to focus on serious discussion to do it and not use disruption as an excuse to avoid a thread or whatever "once it's gotten out of hand"... I can change gears at the drop of a dime.  |
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It just seems that if I were 'the man' and was threatened by national and international black unity that I'd just foment tension around issues of identity and race and nationality to prevent any meaningful dialog from taking place. Think of how much BS is going on in this site lately. We're arguing about our identity with fringe 'nut cases' who clearly do not have the broader communities' interests at heart. I mean think about it, we've got people here who are trying to tell us that we're not even a race.
I posted an article by an African who talked about tribal conflict in Africa. Well, if in America there are not tribal affiliations to use to separate people like they've done in Africa, then, well, let's create some "tribal" shit to divide in America.  |
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I've long since looked at the E Pluribus Unum as a model-metaphor for African-Americans. From Many Tribes ONE People.
ONE LOVE! Interlopers.... FT!! |
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I was reading the post by O.A. about the Congo and began thinking about the sister that used to post from there. Has anyone heard from her?
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