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According to the roman mythology, the founders of Rome were Romulus and Remus. The twin-brothers were the supposed sons of the god Mars and the priestess Rhea Silvia. The story begins with the deposition of Numitor (their grandfather and king of the ancient Italian city of Alba Longa), by his brother Amulius. Numitor's daughter, Rhea Silvia, was made a Vestal Virgin by Amulius - which meant that she was made a priestess of the godess Vesta and therefore forbidden to marry. However, the god Mars came to her in her temple and of him she conceived her two sons, romulus and remus.

As soon as they were born, her husband abandoned them in a remote location. This practice was a form of quasi-infanticide tolerated in many ancient cultures, including the Roman and Greek, when children were unwanted. They were unwanted because Amulius, was fearing that the boys would grow up to overthrow him, had them placed in a trough and thrown into the River Tiber. At that time the river was in flood, and when the waters fell, the trough, still containing the two boys, came ashore. They were found by a she-wolf, who instead of killing them, looked after them and fed them with her milk, the she-wolf was helped by a woodpecker who brought them food too. Interesting enough both these animals were sacred to Mars.

Romulus and Remus were then discovered by Faustulus, a shepherd, who brought the children to his home. Faustulus and his wife, Acca Larentia, raised the boys as their own. According to Livy, some said that Loba, wife of Faustulus had suckled them, not a female wolf Indeed, her name meant wolf which was Lupus in Latin. Upon reaching adulthood, Romulus and Remus killed Amulius and reinstated Numitor, their grandfather, as King of Alba Longa, then they decidet to found a town of their own. Romulus and Remus chose the place where the she-wolf had nursed them. Romulus began to build walls on the Palatine Hill, but Remus jeered at them because they were so low. He leaped over them to prove this, and Romulus in anger killed him. Romulus continued the building of the new city, naming it Roma (Rome) after his own name. It's first citizens were outlaws and fugitives, to whom Romulus gave the settlement on the Capitoline Hill.

There were however not enough wives for all these men, and so Romulus decided to steal women from the Sabines, an Italian tribe. He there proclaimed a festival and invited many Sabines to it. While the attention of the men was elsewhere Romulus' men rushed in and carried off the women. This was the famous "Rape (carrying off) of the Sabine women", which later became a subject for painters. The Sabine men were furious and, led by their king Titus Tatius, made war on Romulus. When the fighting had reached its peak the Sabine women, who had grown fond of their Roman husbands, rushed between the ranks and begged both sides to make peace. So the battle was stopped, Romulus and Titus Tatius ruled together over the two peoples until Titus Tatius was killed in battle. For the rest of his life Romulus ruled alone, proving himself a great leader in peace and war. He did not die but disappeared one day in a violent storm. The Romans believing he had been taken up to heaven, worshipped him under the name of Quirinus. He was succeeded by Numa Pompilius.

It seems unlkely that any part of this legend is true. Almost certainly it is a copy of a Greek tale, invented to explain the name of Rome and certain customs. For instance Roman brides were taken from their families on their wedding days with a pretence of force, and this probably accounts for the story of the Sabine women.





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the god Mars came to her in her temple and of him she conceived her two sons, romulus and remus
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Amulius, was fearing that the boys would grow up to overthrow him
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had them placed in a trough and thrown into the River
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Romulus began to build walls on the Palatine Hill, but Remus jeered at them because they were so low. He leaped over them to prove this, and Romulus in anger killed him.
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He did not die but disappeared one day in a violent storm. The Romans believing he had been taken up to heaven, worshipped him under the name of Quirinus.
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"We propound nothing different from what you believe regarding those whom you esteem sons of Jupiter"
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"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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Confused

You're going to bring the point home soon right?


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THE BIG HOUSE. Where to slogan is "Anything Goes".

Byetheway,

Heru, you've already 'implicated' yourself as soon as you posted that reply.

You 'saw something' didn't you? Wink

WIAW, told me not to assume, so I make the attempt not to assume that members of AA.org don't know where I'm heading/going with this one.

Or perhaps, I shouldn't assume that members of AA.org know where I'm going/heading with this.
Oh, woo as me. bang

So move past go, collect a couple of c-notes and give your rant. tfro

Or preempt me with a rebuttal.


>>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><<
"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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Ironhorse was my alter-ego.


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Rebutt what?


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I don't believe I was here when "Ironhorse" was on the scene.


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"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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Rebutt what?


...Or rant.


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"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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Give...me...some...thing...to...rant...a...bout.

Is...that...slow...e...nough...for...you...to...un...der...stand?


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Ironhorse was my alter-ego.


Then you must be one sick, twisted freak, considering the memorable arguments you used to have with "yourself" on this site.
Roll Eyes

At least you seem to have kissed yourself and made up these days... lol


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Originally posted by HeruStar:
Confused

You're going to bring the point home soon right?


...That I propound nothing different from what many believe regarding those who are esteemed as the son of 'god', moses, herod fear of being overthrown, letmypeoplegopharaoh, the immaculate knock-up, and cain killing his brother abel.


>>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><<
"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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Then you must be one sick, twisted freak, considering the memorable arguments you used to have with "yourself" on this site.


At least you seem to have kissed yourself and made up these days...


Razz

Why couldn't you just let the conspiracy roll for a few days?


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If anyone is ever in cincinnati, head for eden park. It's in a community called mt. adams, overlooking the ohio river. You'll see the statue of the wolf getting her tits suck by the man-cubs.

Ironic, is it not, that in the park (garden) of 'eden' you will see the statue of romulus and remus?



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"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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If anyone is ever in cincinnati, head for eden park. It's in a community called mt. adams, overlooking the ohio river. You'll see the statue of the wolf getting her tits suck by the man-cubs.

Ironic, is it not, that in the park (garden) of 'eden' you will see the statue of romulus and remus?




Beautiful view from that park.

Very ironic that I've already been there ain't it? 20


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Very ironic that I've already been there ain't it? 20


Nope.


>>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><<
"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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So you live in Losantiville?

Is that the community of Losantiville in the 'Nati near The Cincinnati Gardens?

I'm from North Avondale.






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So you live in Losantiville?

Is that the community of Losantiville in the 'Nati near The Cincinnati Gardens?

I'm from North Avondale.


Actually I was just visiting the area. I have family in Cinncinati, Mansfield and Cleveland. I'm in Florida.


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I finally got a chance to get a shot of this house. They showed it a million times on the extreme homes show on the home and garden channel.


I'd rather be hated for what I am than loved for what I'm not. - Chuck D.
 
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So you live in Losantiville?


The entire city of cincinnati was once called losantiville.

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Is that the community of Losantiville in 'Nati near The Cincinnati Gardens?

Either that or pleasant ridge.

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I'm from North Avondale.


... Me, Walnut Hills.


>>><<<<>>>><<<<>>>><<
"Study the people who took you out of history. Then you'll understand -your history."
"For your survival, draw on the intellectual heritage of the whole world, but always start with your own intellectual heitage". --Dr. John Henrik Clarke

"Revenge knows few limits when the privileged and powerful are subjected to the kind of terror they regularly mete out to their victims." --Noam Chomsky

"Sure there are a few good whites just as much as there are a few bad Blacks. However what we are concerned here with is group attitudes and group politics. The exception does not make a lie or the rule - it merely substantiates it." --Steve Biko


 
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Yeah, that house is in Hyde Park.

What an eyesore.






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