What do you think about doing single sex shows - one just for the sistas and one just for the brothas? We could discuss issues of concern for those groups and each would have a chance to more fully discuss their perspectives.

I thought the interaction on last week's show was superb! I'd love to encourage more of that kind of discussion and exploration and think that doing individual shows might be quite interesting.

Maybe we'd do the single sex shows first - and then have another joint show afterwards.

What do you think?

Kool

maybe we can even have a female sports segment

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:
Kool

maybe we can even have a female sports segment

traitor...

GASP!

but...but...

he said a joint show afterwards, right?

It's worth a try. Maybe we'll get more participants to call in this time!

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Originally posted by MBM:


What do you think?

my rant

i think that if you are planning a new show theme, it should be for sista's only. I don't think a brother themed talk show would not be worth the effort...being that black men are better seen and not heard [as shown in our black community, esp. in the media and the many examples of sisters telling brothers what to think and how to act]. This was even on display here on this message board. When I entered this board, there was a 'sista's spot', but NO AREA for men to discuss topics that were related to them...NO MAN SPACE TO CHILL AND INTERACT....point proven, so I'll just move on .

I know that relationship/debate shows may seem popular to some, but they basic end up being all about the sisters...as shown from the last show 6-7-2007. It started out talking about how BM and BF interact and seek out the same things in a relationship [love, affection, devotion, etc.]..but the show mutated into black men aren't educated or professional enough for the sisters to be in a relationship with {or what women want in a desireable man}[what's that got to do with love??...the short answer is nothing. Can a professional educated black woman fall in love wit ha blue collar bruh man..yes..but can she SEE HERSELF giving that man the same level of respect that she would an accountant/dentist/college professor??...probably not]. Is that the major issue in the black love arena?? does a brother with B.A. or M.S. or Ph.D. make a better man in a relationship?? This point seemed to have gone unchallenged...why?? Maybe the woman that said that should have been taken to task to prove that non-sense. Is a male or female that isn't a college grad worthy of any kind of love? I guess not. [Personally, I think it is a form of low-level, low-life golddigging, but that is a different topic for a different day ]

Since the topic was single black women and their dating dilemmas...what about other factors that lower her chances at love like her age [older women have a harder time at dating/marrying {this is a raceless fact}...this will be the theme of a new reality show called 'age of love'...a show in which a tennis star, aged 30, is the desired prize of two groups of women, one set 'kittens', who are in their 20's and the other 'cougars', who are over 35], attitude, her general outlook on life combined with her treatment of men, esp men in relationships...often very bitter with age, attractiveness level, fine to oogly, as judged by single men ONLY, not Essence or Dove soap, and many other things I will leave in the 'unknown file' [you can't expect a bruh to give up all the secrets


I think some show time should have been devoted to the opposite of that same topic to get to the main problem alot of brothers are having in dating [too many undesirable Black women in the dating pool {your kids aren't invisible ladies!!!}...wow, you sure won't see that on Oprah or read about that in Essence ]...but i guess the needs of men aren't that important and thus ignored.

one more thing, must there be a sports talk part in every show?? I love sports, but it seemed like you had some obligation to do a mini-SportsCenter after like 40 mins. I think the show should be more flexible.

I apologize if my words seem harsh, but I'm just trying to help keep this show more entertaining.


please email your comments to pbs1914ju@yahoo.com

thank you and good day


p.s. ...can you all imagine if I called into THAT SHOW..with my opinions??? wow, what a riot!!!

I agree about the sports segment every show RR-I could do without that too , but I disagree about a male only show being worth it. It seems to me the men have been representing the most on the calls with sisters lacking in attendance or calling in (of which i am guilty myself ) so to me i would think an all male show would be a success. I missed the last call and haven't had a chance to listen to it yet so i can't comment on the direction the call took, but honestly I can see what you mean from how dicussions go here and elsewhere about the issue being directed more so to the women's side of it. You should have called in with your rant RR!

I think this is a good idea overall MBM.

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Originally posted by RadioRaheem:
p.s. ...can you all imagine if I called into THAT SHOW..with my opinions???

Yes! You would have had an opportunity to voice your opinion while the show was airing, rather than wait until after the show is over.

Brother MBM did ask the panel about the dynamics of African American relationships. And the truth is, instablity within the African-American family has worsened and it is definitely reflected in the high rate of female-headed households (43.5 percent) and divorce rates (28.2 percent) today. This is exacerated by several conditions in our community: Black ghettos remain prevalent in our large urban areas; one-third of America's African-American population lives BELOW the poverty level with almost 50 percent of black children raised in poverty, more than 60 percent of all black births are to single women; and 12 percent of the unemployed are Black males. In addition, this economic and social devastation has contributed to our community's disintegration--to crime, violence, a high rate of incarceration, and murder as the leading cause of death among African-American males ages 15 to 24.

And if anyone wants to act as if none of this is having an impact on Black families and relationships, then I'd say that this person is in serious denial. It is impossible to have a discussion about Black relationships without discussing what is presently happening in our communities and to Black youth in particular.

Joe, who was one of the guests on the show, mentioned that education seemed to be a central theme of our discussion. I wanted to respond to his comment by saying that people focus on education when they talk about the circumstances of Black males because, truthfully, education has proven to give people from all walks of life, regardless of their circumstances, more opportunities for advancement. People from all over world are aggressively competing for careers that are requiring higher and higher levels of education and diverse abilities and skill sets. And these increasing demands on the members of our society are not going to go away simply because we ignore it or wish it away. Therefore, as Black people who have attained at least some level of success, we need to prepare Black youth for promising futures. It is imperative that we make a committment to them and give them something to look forward to in their lives.

Ultimately, there are some critical and major changes that are going to have to take place in our community in the very near future if our people are going to survive.

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Originally posted by Rowe:

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Originally posted by RadioRaheem:
p.s. ...can you all imagine if I called into THAT SHOW..with my opinions???

Yes! You would have had an opportunity to voice your opinion while the show was airing, rather than waiting until after the show is over.
*I have a life and can not always being on the ready for things like this...please forgive me...i'm very social*


Brother MBM did ask the panel about the dynamics of African American relationships. And the truth is, instablity within the African-American family has worsened and it is definitely reflected in the high rate of female-headed households (43.5 percent) and divorce rates (28.2 percent) today. The actual numbers that my co-authors and i are quoting in our book are much higher...truth be told, blacks are the most likely group to divorce or never marryThis is exacerated by several conditions in our community: Black ghettos remain prevalent in our large urban areas; one-third of America's African-American population lives BELOW the poverty level with almost 50 percent of black children raised in poverty, more than 60 percent of all black births are to single women; and 12 percent of the unemployed are Black males. In addition, this economic and social devastation has contributed to our community's disintegration--to crime, violence, a high rate of incarceration, and murder as the leading cause of death among African-American males ages 15 to 24.

And if anyone wants to act as if none of this is having an impact on Black families and relationships, then I'd say that individual is in serious denial. ..but what has an even higher impact on female relationship opportunities is the generalize direspect most black women have for black men. it seems like they blame brothers for every thing that has ever gone wrong from the beginning of time....also younger females bad boy/thug thirsty fetish [i've spoke about this at least 7-11 times on here...which again is related back to lack of respect]
It is impossible to have a discussion about Black relationships without discussing what is presently happening in our communities and to Black youth in particular.true, and in that we should focus on the ACTIONS of black women and how they 'write the script' for their datelessness in their late 30's and 40's...again getting back to the basic concept of 'what men want'...the most ignore part of any black love discussion


Joe, who was one of the guest panel, mentioned that education seemed to be central theme of our discussion. I wanted to respond to his comment by saying that people focus on education when they talk about the circumstances of Black males because, truthfully, education has proven to give people from all walks of life, regardless of their circumstances, more opportunities for advancement. People from all over world are aggressively competing for careers that are requiring higher and higher levels of education and diverse abilities and skill sets. And these increasing demands on the members of our society are not going to go away simply because we ignore it or wish it away. Therefore, as Black people who have attained at least some level of success, we need to prepare Black youth for promising futures. It is imperative that we make a committment to them and give them something to look forward to in their lives.

...but education is not related to love. two scholars can fall in love...two uneducated people can fall in love...an uneducated and a scholar can fall in love...I think your statements prove to be an example of how women 'pre-load' love opportunities with too many rules...many of which are simply absurd


Ultimately, there are some critical and major changes that are going to have to take place in our community in the very near future if our people are going to survive...agreed, but education is still not related to love.

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Originally posted by RadioRaheem:

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Originally posted by MBM:


What do you think?

my rant

i think that if you are planning a new show theme, it should be for sista's only. I don't think a brother themed talk show would not be worth the effort...being that black men are better seen and not heard

I don't think so... I'm sorry you feel this way Radio... this is why it is important for you to lend your voice... that doesn't mean your opinions will be readily agreed with... it simply means your opinion is worth consideration... Black women do not exist on the planet alone... and most of us want and desire our men... the gap between the genders can not be bridged if some of us shut down.... so what is it that you feel needs to happen for your voice to be heard greater... and have you truly assessed whether this is indeed the case...?

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but the show mutated into black men aren't educated or professional enough for the sisters to be in a relationship with {or what women want in a desireable man}[what's that got to do with love??...the short answer is nothing.

Brother... I was on the panel... and I'm perplexed by your assessment... the idea was brought up by both AG and MBM (both Black men.) and we sisters continued to give our opinion... the context was simply is there a disparity in number at the college level... and we discussed how Black women can reach out and find commonality with brothers not in that arena...

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Since the topic was single black women and their dating dilemmas...what about other factors that lower her chances at love like her age [older women have a harder time at dating/marrying {this is a raceless fact}...this will be the theme of a new reality show called 'age of love'...a show in which a tennis star, aged 30, is the desired prize of two groups of women, one set 'kittens', who are in their 20's and the other 'cougars', who are over 35], attitude, her general outlook on life combined with her treatment of men, esp men in relationships...often very bitter with age, attractiveness level, fine to oogly, as judged by single men ONLY, not Essence or Dove soap, and many other things I will leave in the 'unknown file' [you can't expect a bruh to give up all the secrets


I think some show time should have been devoted to the opposite of that same topic to get to the main problem alot of brothers are having in dating [too many undesirable Black women in the dating pool {your kids aren't invisible ladies!!!}...wow, you sure won't see that on Oprah or read about that in Essence ]...but i guess the needs of men aren't that important and thus ignored.

one more thing, must there be a sports talk part in every show?? I love sports, but it seemed like you had some obligation to do a mini-SportsCenter after like 40 mins. I think the show should be more flexible.

I apologize if my words seem harsh, but I'm just trying to help keep this show more entertaining.


please email your comments to pbs1914ju@yahoo.com

thank you and good day


p.s. ...can you all imagine if I called into THAT SHOW..with my opinions??? wow, what a riot!!!

You voice your opinion here... if you feel there is something missing, why not lend your voice to the brothers idea? If there is not a place... MBM is offering a place for brothers to voice their opinions without the interference of women in the dialogue...

perhaps you should consider taking advantage of the opportunity.. this would seem to be a good way to solve the dilemma you face...



Salaam...

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Originally posted by Khalliqa:


perhaps you should consider taking advantage of the opportunity.. this would seem to be a good way to solve the dilemma you face...



Salaam...

I think I will

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Originally posted by RadioRaheem:
but what has an even higher impact on female relationship opportunities is the generalize direspect most black women have for black men. it seems like they blame brothers for every thing that has ever gone wrong from the beginning of time....also younger females bad boy/thug thirsty fetish...

Brother Raheem, it seems as if you are interested in engaging in tit-for-tat arguments against what you are perceiving to be personal attacks on Black men, and nothing in this discussion or the discussion that we had last week is suggesting this. Most of us just want the problems to end, and we want a better life for Black people, period. More importantly, we want to know what can be done to improve the lives of young people today, particulary the lives of young Black males, since statistically, they are ones who are in the more vulnerable position in this country.

Anyway, I hope that during the next two shows we can address these issues more objectively and that anyone who is nursing resentment will feel encouraged to finally let go of his or her resentment.

I look forward to hearing you express your views on the upcoming shows!

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Originally posted by Rowe:
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I look forward to hearing you express your views on the upcoming shows!

If my schedule allows it, I shall participate.

Is tomorrow's show the one for Sistas Only or for Brothas Only? I would love to participate or call-in, but I have to work overtime (I'm usually off on Thursdays) this week.