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Originally posted by Wiz:

Ricardomath, if I ran up on your woman and asked her if she were black, I am certain that she would qualify that shit with all kinds of adjectives and adverbs.

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So the answer is no. She is not.

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She look like it, but she is not owning it.

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Originally posted by SistahSouljah:
Hmmm yeah and according to Wiz, this article along with my other thread clearly exhibits how much I hate "niggas", as he claims to be, as opposed to a real man.

Maybe I can get a show of hands from the ladies who prefer a "nigga" over a real man. I didn't know that's what's hot right now.

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Originally posted by Momzed:
I personally detest the term "real man" and how it marginalizes Black men whom many would say do not fit.

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Originally posted by Khalliqa:

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Originally posted by Momzed:
I personally detest the term "real man" and how it marginalizes Black men whom many would say do not fit.

How do you define n*gga?

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Originally posted by Momzed:

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Originally posted by Khalliqa:

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Originally posted by Momzed:
I personally detest the term "real man" and how it marginalizes Black men whom many would say do not fit.

How do you define n*gga?

I probably should have been more precise and said I detest the connotation of the phase "real man" and how it is used to marginalize.

Lemesee...to me a nigga is simply a regular everyday brother who loves and takes care of his family and community, lives his life, develops his interests without having to align with dogma, or program.

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Originally posted by Momzed:

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Originally posted by SistahSouljah:
Hmmm yeah and according to Wiz, this article along with my other thread clearly exhibits how much I hate "niggas", as he claims to be, as opposed to a real man.

Maybe I can get a show of hands from the ladies who prefer a "nigga" over a real man. I didn't know that's what's hot right now.

Holding up my hand!

I do get what the brotha means by "nigga," which is not at all opposed to "real man" except I personally detest the term "real man" and how it marginalizes Black men whom many would say do not fit.

Beyond the semantics, though, what is very hard to miss is Wiz's consistent love for Black women. Given the context of this board, that matters. He's a nigga--and a smart, sweet, talented and from the pic---a purty one at that.

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by Momzed:

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Originally posted by SistahSouljah:
Hmmm yeah and according to Wiz, this article along with my other thread clearly exhibits how much I hate "niggas", as he claims to be, as opposed to a real man.

Maybe I can get a show of hands from the ladies who prefer a "nigga" over a real man. I didn't know that's what's hot right now.

Holding up my hand!

I do get what the brotha means by "nigga," which is not at all opposed to "real man" except I personally detest the term "real man" and how it marginalizes Black men whom many would say do not fit.

Beyond the semantics, though, what is very hard to miss is Wiz's consistent love for Black women. Given the context of this board, that matters. He's a nigga--and a smart, sweet, talented and from the pic---a purty one at that.

Um, Momzed,

How can the term "nigga" be less detestable than "real man"? I know no regular, everyday, taking care of things, handling his biz type of brothas that prefer to be called "niggas" or even "99's" with the exception of Wiz.

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Originally posted by OhBlackButterfly:
~That puzzled me, too. But, Momzed's reference to the term "real man" seemed to bring to my mind a black woman V.S. a black man conversation. Many conversations. Real ones. Written ones. Scripted ones. Conversations that I was involved in myself. In a heated "black" conversation such as those, the use of the term "real man" would UNDOUBTEDLY incite more anger than using the term "nigga" EVER would. Cuts right to the quick.

So, I get what Wiz and Momzed are saying as it relates to US in the black community ---- the meaning and use of both terms. In such a sense, it doesn't mean what it means/meant to and for racist whites. But, I don't like the word. I get it, the use of it, though.

Try as you or I or anyone might, to get rid of the word, it simply is NOT used as the "racist insult" that it was used for at it's origin and beginnings --- not when WE use it, that is.

But, to make a reference to a black man's ACTUAL MANHOOD with "real man" references --- you better duck.

I hate motherfucker, too. But...we love to use this.*shrug* ~

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Originally posted by THEBIGDODDY:

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Originally posted by OhBlackButterfly:
~That puzzled me, too. But, Momzed's reference to the term "real man" seemed to bring to my mind a black woman V.S. a black man conversation. Many conversations. Real ones. Written ones. Scripted ones. Conversations that I was involved in myself. In a heated "black" conversation such as those, the use of the term "real man" would UNDOUBTEDLY incite more anger than using the term "nigga" EVER would. Cuts right to the quick.

So, I get what Wiz and Momzed are saying as it relates to US in the black community ---- the meaning and use of both terms. In such a sense, it doesn't mean what it means/meant to and for racist whites. But, I don't like the word. I get it, the use of it, though.

Try as you or I or anyone might, to get rid of the word, it simply is NOT used as the "racist insult" that it was used for at it's origin and beginnings --- not when WE use it, that is.

But, to make a reference to a black man's ACTUAL MANHOOD with "real man" references --- you better duck.

I hate motherfucker, too. But...we love to use this.*shrug* ~

True dat.

And if you peep this, you know that there is nothing remotely niggerized about that nigga Wiz, and I dare anyone to test that.

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Originally posted by OhBlackButterfly:

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by Momzed:

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Originally posted by SistahSouljah:
Hmmm yeah and according to Wiz, this article along with my other thread clearly exhibits how much I hate "niggas", as he claims to be, as opposed to a real man.

Maybe I can get a show of hands from the ladies who prefer a "nigga" over a real man. I didn't know that's what's hot right now.

Holding up my hand!

I do get what the brotha means by "nigga," which is not at all opposed to "real man" except I personally detest the term "real man" and how it marginalizes Black men whom many would say do not fit.

Beyond the semantics, though, what is very hard to miss is Wiz's consistent love for Black women. Given the context of this board, that matters. He's a nigga--and a smart, sweet, talented and from the pic---a purty one at that.

Um, Momzed,

How can the term "nigga" be less detestable than "real man"? I know no regular, everyday, taking care of things, handling his biz type of brothas that prefer to be called "niggas" or even "99's" with the exception of Wiz.

~That puzzled me, too. But, Momzed's reference to the term "real man" seemed to bring to my mind a black woman V.S. a black man conversation. Many conversations. Real ones. Written ones. Scripted ones. Conversations that I was involved in myself. In a heated "black" conversation such as those, the use of the term "real man" would UNDOUBTEDLY incite more anger than using the term "nigga" EVER would. Cuts right to the quick.

So, I get what Wiz and Momzed are saying as it relates to US in the black community ---- the meaning and use of both terms. In such a sense, it doesn't mean what it means/meant to and for racist whites. But, I don't like the word. I get it, the use of it, though.

Try as you or I or anyone might, to get rid of the word, it simply is NOT used as the "racist insult" that it was used for at it's origin and beginnings --- not when WE use it, that is.

But, to make a reference to a black man's ACTUAL MANHOOD with "real man" references --- you better duck.

I hate motherfucker, too. But...we love to use this.*shrug* ~

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by THEBIGDODDY:

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Originally posted by OhBlackButterfly:
~That puzzled me, too. But, Momzed's reference to the term "real man" seemed to bring to my mind a black woman V.S. a black man conversation. Many conversations. Real ones. Written ones. Scripted ones. Conversations that I was involved in myself. In a heated "black" conversation such as those, the use of the term "real man" would UNDOUBTEDLY incite more anger than using the term "nigga" EVER would. Cuts right to the quick.

So, I get what Wiz and Momzed are saying as it relates to US in the black community ---- the meaning and use of both terms. In such a sense, it doesn't mean what it means/meant to and for racist whites. But, I don't like the word. I get it, the use of it, though.

Try as you or I or anyone might, to get rid of the word, it simply is NOT used as the "racist insult" that it was used for at it's origin and beginnings --- not when WE use it, that is.

But, to make a reference to a black man's ACTUAL MANHOOD with "real man" references --- you better duck.

I hate motherfucker, too. But...we love to use this.*shrug* ~

True dat.

And if you peep this, you know that there is nothing remotely niggerized about that nigga Wiz, and I dare anyone to test that.

Well, I dare anyone to read anything more into my statement about Wiz than I actually wrote. He does indeed refer to himself and regular round the way fellas as "niggas" or "99's". That is an indesputable fact.

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by OhBlackButterfly:

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Originally posted by negrospiritual:

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Originally posted by Momzed:

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Originally posted by SistahSouljah:
Hmmm yeah and according to Wiz, this article along with my other thread clearly exhibits how much I hate "niggas", as he claims to be, as opposed to a real man.

Maybe I can get a show of hands from the ladies who prefer a "nigga" over a real man. I didn't know that's what's hot right now.

Holding up my hand!

I do get what the brotha means by "nigga," which is not at all opposed to "real man" except I personally detest the term "real man" and how it marginalizes Black men whom many would say do not fit.

Beyond the semantics, though, what is very hard to miss is Wiz's consistent love for Black women. Given the context of this board, that matters. He's a nigga--and a smart, sweet, talented and from the pic---a purty one at that.

Um, Momzed,

How can the term "nigga" be less detestable than "real man"? I know no regular, everyday, taking care of things, handling his biz type of brothas that prefer to be called "niggas" or even "99's" with the exception of Wiz.

~That puzzled me, too. But, Momzed's reference to the term "real man" seemed to bring to my mind a black woman V.S. a black man conversation. Many conversations. Real ones. Written ones. Scripted ones. Conversations that I was involved in myself. In a heated "black" conversation such as those, the use of the term "real man" would UNDOUBTEDLY incite more anger than using the term "nigga" EVER would. Cuts right to the quick.

So, I get what Wiz and Momzed are saying as it relates to US in the black community ---- the meaning and use of both terms. In such a sense, it doesn't mean what it means/meant to and for racist whites. But, I don't like the word. I get it, the use of it, though.

Try as you or I or anyone might, to get rid of the word, it simply is NOT used as the "racist insult" that it was used for at it's origin and beginnings --- not when WE use it, that is.

But, to make a reference to a black man's ACTUAL MANHOOD with "real man" references --- you better duck.

I hate motherfucker, too. But...we love to use this.*shrug* ~

you right about "you better duck" when references to "real man" or "real woman" are made. I'll add "ain't man enough" or "ain't woman enough"

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Originally posted by ricardomath:

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Originally posted by Wiz:

Ricardomath, if I ran up on your woman and asked her if she were black, I am certain that she would qualify that shit with all kinds of adjectives and adverbs.

Based upon what? Your own ignorance and stupidity?

I won't call you a liar about this, because your only claim here is a claim about your own state of mind, and you have made it quite clear that your mind is not functioning properly, so I have no way of knowing just what nonsense you might be certain of.

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So the answer is no. She is not.

You are a liar.

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She look like it, but she is not owning it.

Again, you are a liar, plain and simple. I sugest that you stick to statements about your own pathetic little state of mind, and not try to make assertions (ie: lies) about others.

Have some respect for Black women, Wiz. Stop lying about them.

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Originally posted by Wiz:

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Originally posted by SistahSouljah:
Hmmm yeah and according to Wiz, this article along with my other thread clearly exhibits how much I hate "niggas", as he claims to be, as opposed to a real man.

Maybe I can get a show of hands from the ladies who prefer a "nigga" over a real man. I didn't know that's what's hot right now.

Well I do not see you raising you hand about how you love niggas and based on what you write and your choice to diplay that picture of you and your mexican on a black site shows the level of your disrespect. What you may not admit is that a lot of your 'real men' is niggas in sheep's clothing. Your mexican (if y'all spawn successfully, do that make a 'mixican'? Thats some funny shit there, 'mixican') could be someone else's nigga. You know like A-rabs is sand niggas, asians is yella niggas and of course First Nationers are 'red niggas' So an Indian from Mexico is a nigga of a notha' culla'. But really I just point that out for context, because he ain't a real nigga (I guess that make him a play doh-mofo)

Speaking of motherfukkas, you need to not say my name. I am trying really hard to keep my inna-nigga, real inner. You know what I am saying? Yeah I know you do. Now keep fucking with me.

Ricardomath, if I ran up on your woman and asked her if she were black, I am certain that she would qualify that shit with all kinds of adjectives and adverbs. So the answer is no. She is not. She look like it, but she is not owning it. Say whatever you want, but unless I got a badge on her, she ain't claiming a strait no. But don't worry, when they draw the lines, she will be in a camp with us, but then it is because she will not have a choice.