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Originally posted by James Wesley Chester:
I have asked once before and now I ask again. What do you want us to be? Not what do you not want us to be, but what do you want 'us', black people in america, to be? Whatever it is, it is not without consequences. What do you expect the consequences of what we are to be?---Wiz

I want us to be confident in our identity...as a people.

Among the consequences are;

1. And immediate change in the language of our society.

2. A change in the way decisions are made regarding us...and our children and in programs that are operated for...or applied to us.

3. We immediately experience a quantum leap in self-perception.

4. Precisely because we are who we say we are, we begin to leverage our parity in the society in which we live.

We can only carry so much, for every thing we pick up, we have to drop something else. How would you have us be?

In this day and time, how would you have us be? Share.---Wiz

We drop 'color' as the tag for our identity.

We grow in the knowledge that as Americans of unknown African ancestry are as unique as any other ethnic group in the world.

We drop an awful lot of detrimental societal baggage.

We take our place in the world as the unique people we are.

The list goes on, and on.

I'll bet you can add many to the list.

PEACE

Jim Chester

JWC, I do beleive it was you who put that out in a post from the Ellison's Invisible Man. How do you come down on that split?

JWC, I do beleive it was you who put that out in a post from the Ellison's Invisible Man. How do you come down on that split?---Wiz

I haven't read Ellison's 'Invisible Man'.

If it is the same, it must be the coincidental logic of 'great minds'.

As for arriving at 'that split', I can only say logic...good or bad.

Can you add to the list?

PEACE

Jim Chester

I think too many of us emulate what has been or is being done to us by white people either directly or indirectly, which has allowed their tactics to succeed by dividing us as a people. Plus...and this is a Big 'ole PLUS....All over the World people are very prejudice against US!!!! It's a worldly thang. We need to be fair to one another and become more aware of what's going down. There is nothing wrong with an employer/employee relationship as long as it is fair. We need to stop feeding into this bullcrap that a great white hope is going to save us....'cus that just ain't happening. They have no idea how you feel....they just know they want to be on TOP.....and they are afraid what we would do if we were on top....so they let a few of us good ones threw the gate. Mind you...I said "LET".
WE as a people are soooooo BRILLIANT....there is NOTHING we Can't do. We have Entrepreneurs, Inventors, Doctors with Degrees out of their azzzes....we don't need to emulate no one....but ourselves.

Yo Wiz...I thought you were going to continue this!!!
Anyway...I got something to add:
Problems that I see:
1) Light-skin people thinking they better than darker-skinned people
(2) People making more money thinking they are better.
(3) Black Men still putting down Black Women and Women not knowing who they really are
(4) Dis continuing the White Thought Process...in OUR brains

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Originally posted by nehisi:
Yo Wiz...I thought you were going to continue this!!!
Anyway...I got something to add:
Problems that I see:
1) Light-skin people thinking they better than darker-skinned people
(2) People making more money thinking they are better.
(3) Black Men still putting down Black Women and Women not knowing who they really are
(4) Dis continuing the White Thought Process...in OUR brains

Or you can say it this way...

1)Colourism
2)Classism
3)Sexism
4)Internalized white supremacy a.k.a Dr. Joy DeGruy-Leary's Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome

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Originally posted by Oshun Auset:

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Originally posted by nehisi:
Yo Wiz...I thought you were going to continue this!!!
Anyway...I got something to add:
Problems that I see:
1) Light-skin people thinking they better than darker-skinned people
(2) People making more money thinking they are better.
(3) Black Men still putting down Black Women and Women not knowing who they really are
(4) Dis continuing the White Thought Process...in OUR brains

Or you can say it this way...

1)Colourism
2)Classism
3)Sexism
4)Internalized white supremacy a.k.a Dr. Joy DeGruy-Leary's Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome

Excellent synopsis!!!!!

I agree with Sista K. Excellent analysis Nehisi! Blackfolks still want the fantasy....when real life keeps slapping them in the face. As I said before, blackfolks are willing to BELIEVE good ole' massa as he continues to enslave us one way or the other. Pitiful... Tragic. And very very sad.

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We have Entrepreneurs, Inventors, Doctors with Degrees out of their azzzes....we don't need to emulate no one....but ourselves.

Well y'all already know, I have no love for entrepreneurs, but here you bring two points.

One. We are intelligent
Two. We do not need to emulate anyone.

It is almost frightening. Left to ourselves, we would not have doctors, we would have healers, but not doctors. This is not to say that doctors are bad, they are not really. But their reliance on technologies seems a little unbalanced, where as healers are a little unbalanced the other way.

We did not need remotes until we got TVs (that is kinda funny). I don't know I think we are terribly unbalanced as it were.

We want to show them that we are as good at what they do as they are, but not all of what they do is good.

I love the idea of education, I hate the idea of getting a degree to get a job. You should get an apprenticeship to get a job, education should be there to enhance your spirit, not your wallet. That is just how I feel.

Anyway, I was wandering, sorry.

If you could draw a picture of us pretty, what would it look like? Would we look like Dick and Jane, Darnell and Shatoya, or Husani and Eno?

Do you think we could determine our own picture of health? Are there things you are willing to give up for this? That is the big question. What are we willing to give up?