Ok, here's the last of the postings from AOL's African-American thread.

AOL was becoming very frustrating.

Unlike this board. This is a really cool board and it's an added bonus knowing, the "head man in charge" .... is a black man.

Anyway. . .

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<< In fact none of my ansestors ever owned slaves, In fact I do know that some died fighting a war to free some! >>

Mine too...

Eve-Angel

Qd: For the record. . .

The Civil War wasn't fought to free the slaves, it was fought to PRESERVE the union. . ."Lincoln" said so himself!

And another point. . .

. . .BLACK folk ALSO fought in that war. . .even though they were STILL being treated like animals. . .

. . .I guess none of y'all have heard of the Buffalo Soldiers, huh? Black folk have fought for this country in EVERY war.

I will return to this thread with links to back up my statements.

HOWEVER, to reiterate--the Civil War WAS NOT FOUGHT TO FREE THE SLAVES, IT WAS FOUGHT TO PRESERVE THE UNION.

I can BACK UP what I'm saying, let me see y'all back up your claim that "your people" were fighting to free the slaves-- that's bullshit.

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Qd: Ok I'm back with those links. Check it out. Cause what I'm sharing with y'all is the "truth."

Check out what LINCOLN said:

{snip}

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.
{snip}


Qd: So to those who claimed {using whiny voice} "my 'ancestors' fought in the Civil War to free the slaves"------buy a freaking clue.

. . .Again, 'Lincoln' said himself--- if the Union could be preserved without freeing the slaves, THAT is exactly what he would've done. . .

. . .So stop spewing falsehoods, and understand that BLACK FOLK were out there fighting too-----to preserve the Union.

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Qd: Your comments are nothing more than a distortion of the truth. . .and here it is the year 2006, and y'all STILL lying.

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Qd: It seems some of y'all are trying to justify slavery by referencing the slavery in Africa.

{as IF the cruelty the slaves received in this country is comparable to the slavery in Africa. Please! folks who make this comparison are simply folks who do not know HISTORY}

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Qd: Although other cultures practiced slavery, the Europeans (without a doubt) were barbaric & inhumane. Y'all need to understand this point of fact. . .slavery was not just a tradition or practice in Africa. The truth is. . .SLAVERY began with CIVILiZATION.

Here's a brief history of Slavery

SLAVERY: The burden of slavery - NI 337 - A brief history of Slavery

Origins

Slavery began with civilization. For hunter-gatherers slaves would have been an unaffordable luxury – there wouldn’t have been enough food to go round. With the growth of cultivation, those defeated in warfare could be taken as slaves.


Western slavery goes back 10,000 years to Mesopotamia, today’s Iraq, where a male slave was worth an orchard of date palms. Female slaves were called on for sexual services, gaining freedom only when their masters died.

Early abolitionists arose in the form of two Jewish sects, the Essenes and the Therapeutae, who abhorred slave-owning and tried buying slaves in order to free them. {snip}

Hey Fab...

Check PM's please?

Originally posted by ma'am:
These types of stories are very common online, but how regular is it for an employer to say that they can't hire a person because of race, creed, ethnicity. . .

How often has someone offline told of this type of firsthand experience?

I've been wondering about this for a while.

*smells fish*

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Exactly!!!! Those were my thoughts as well. In fact, here's my response to him:

>>>>>Anyway, I was not hired, and I am stunned. All because I am a white man and not black? Isn't that discrimination?<<<<~~~~Danny McM

Qd: Personally, I don't believe your story. I think you are full of it.

Fab: More on my most recent visits to AOL. For some strange reason many on that board believe I'm a man.

Once again, I go by the screen name "Qd" on this particular board:

Message 9 of 37
Subject: Re: What Kind of Card is Race?
Date: 8/23/2006 9:53 PM Pacific Standard Time
MsgId: 141018:734851

Q is male? Boy, did I have that one wrong!

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Q is male?



technically


Mike

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Qd: I am a black woman, period.

I really don't GET how some of y'all feel you can determine my gender on the basis of my words or stance.

Just goes to show you that MANY here have not been around any black folk. Cause there's nothing "gender specific" about my stance.

Besides, if I were a man I would say so.

Why in the world would ANY man lie about being a woman? Goodness gracious.

Being a woman does NOT get you brownie points, ANYWHERE.

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Q is male?



technically



Mike

I had nothing but female vibes from Q. If Q is a guy I would be very surprised...in fact I would say if the profile says male it's a lie.


C***** ~

I want a woman *snip*

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of the sudden, my friend starts telling the group how white people don't love their parents as much as Arabs do. That we like to throw them away in nursing homes when they get older.~Ang

That kind of crap bothers me... I took care my mother until the day she died. Neither side of the family believes in sending them to a nursing home...and neither do I.

Hell, I took a two year hiatus from my career to take care of her...so that's pure bullshit!
If another culture ever said something like that in front of me I wouldn't just sit there and keep my mouth shut while they made a blanket statement about my culture...

C****: I took care of (in shifts with my mother) my Grandmother. I kept my father at home until his death when he had cancer....but, if Q were to suffer dementia and need care or go to a nursing home...well, it had better not be up to me
: )~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


C***** ~

I want a woman *snip*

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Message 1 of 30
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions: White Power
Date: 8/23/2006 4:23 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Qd
MsgId: 141018:734598


What is White Power?

White Power is an empowering philosophy of White racial nationalism and ethnicity. (snip)

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Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions: White Power
Date: 8/23/2006 8:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Ju-----ndy
MsgId: 141018:734813


I would ask the same for all other ethnic background, black power, hispanic power, asain power but understand I am not talking about racists, but simply why as a white male cannot I be proud to be a white male without be called a racist. I am taking white pride.

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QD: Hey, just find where you fit.

Case in point:

What is White Power?

White Power is an empowering philosophy of White racial nationalism and ethnicity. It refers to a
diverse range of philosophies from leftist National Socialism, to White Pride, to rightist White Supremacy. Perhaps the simplest imperative about what White Power stands for exists in the "14 words" coined by former Bruder Schweigen member, David Lane:


"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children."


Where does the term White Power come from?

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Ju----------ndy: I have a life thank you maybe not the best but it is mine but from what I read here because I am a white male I am not privy to pride. Just to be the best man I can be and if I am such a man, then I must be a racist for no one that has pride in themselves and is white can be nothig but a RACIST but any other ethnic background can have pride or power and not be consider a RACIST. Isn't this very biased?



So are you a member of NAACP?

Qd:
How is that any of your business?

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So are you a member of NAACP?<<<
How is that any of your business? <<<<
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Ju------------ndy: It isn't but the question comes to being since you wish to post about white supremist but forget about black, hispanic or asian supremacy. Now, the questions stands in my mind. Why do you hate those whom are white and to what supremist organization against white do you exactly belong too. I can question or put opinion here if I choose, you can choose to either answer or ignore but it doesn't releive the concern of this poster as to why you chose to hate, disregard or slander another ethnic background because of the color of thier skin since we are all a part of the HUMAN RACE.

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May we now talk about the NAACP or better yet, Black Panthers?
National Aryan Associated Copycat Pinheads
Qd: YOU may post about any darn thing you like. Knock yourself out.

Pssst. . .you don't need my permission ya know.

LOL@U

Frankly I couldn't care less WHAT you do -- Have at it!

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Jus----ndy: In all actually, supremist groups aren't worth my time but it seems that white supremist groups are worth yours, makes you wonder, doesn't it.
Since we only talk about those things that we consider important.


Qd: Surrrrrrre they're not.

Liar!

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Jus----ndy: So I can understand now why your ideas die of lonliness.<<<~~~~jus----ndy

Qd: Who cares what you understand? There are those who simply READ the board. . .

. . .and of THOSE who read the board, SOMEBODY gets it.

Frankly, I don't care whether YOU get it or not. I already know where you're coming from -- No where fast.

Message 1 of 97
Subject: Hate on Display. . .
Date: 8/22/2006 7:35 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Qd
MsgId: 141018:733431

HATE ON DISPLAY

A Visual Database of
Extremist Symbols, Logos and Tattoos

THE CONFEDERATE FLAG
Confederate Flag

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Subject: Re: Hate on Display. . .
Date: 8/23/2006 10:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Jus------ndy
MsgId: 141018:734243

So why is it wrong for a white person to be proud to be white, we are called racists

ButHispanic, Blacks, Asian and other nationalities can show pride.

Anyone care to answer?
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Anyone care to answer?

C***: Yes, I have noticed this and won't buy into it. I'm proud to be white, white and white. I love olive skinned women and give no lazy ass bastard a break because he's a color. I despise minority people who use race as a topic constantly because it proves that they are racist. If we can't all be the same color....I am at least doing all I can to help change all the ladies I can into Heinz blends like me by injection
: )~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


C******~

I want a woman *snip*

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Subject: Re: Hate on Display. . .
Date: 8/23/2006 3:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Qd
MsgId: 141018:734584

sticking to the topic of the thread

Although the flag is seen by some Southerners simply as a symbol of Southern pride, it is often used by racists to represent white domination of African-Americans. The flag remains a subject of controversy because some Southern states still fly the flag from public buildings or incorporate it into their state flag’s design. The flag is also used by racists as an alternative to the American flag, which they consider to be an emblem of what they describe as the Jewish-controlled government.(snip)

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<<< Qd wrote:

Ahhhhhhh. . . STFU you moron.

lizard is THAT YOU???? LOL@the weak-minded trick.
Too dang funny.
>>>

poodle: Um, your just as bad as that KKK poster when you make unprompted insinuations about somebody. I really doubt lizard would post such garbage and for you to accuse her of it makes you no better than the pissAnt who wrote the crap. Don't sink down to that degenerates level!<<<<<<<

QD: Let me tell you something homegirl, you can KMBA.


Don't sink down to that degenerates level!<
Qd: Don't tell me what to do trick. ESAD!

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poodle: Well thats the last time I stick up for your nasty arse! The KKK jag off has one thing right and that is you as an individual are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Ever hear the expression you catch more bees with honey than with vinegar? When you spew hate and nastiness you are just making him look right. Grow up!<<<<<<<<<

Qd: Hey, you ain't nothin' but a HATER yourself.

You were never sticking up for ME. [like you were doing me some favor. please]

[puke & gag]

Who the h***** do you think you're foolin'?

ESAD, hater.

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poodle: Um, your just as bad as that KKK poster when you make unprompted insinuations about somebody.<<<

Qd: Comparing RACIAL SLURS to "insinuations." WOW! How very WHITE of you.

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C****: As we can see, these are the knee-jerk response mechanisms of a racial hater. Swiftly a poster who wishes to project intellect goes straight to the street. Kiss my black ass is a mantra used to ward off reason. I have her on ignore for the racist, one-dimensional posts that she offers. The only subject of interest to her is The Black Experience. Unfortunately, it bores me for it's tired tirade and content.

The only blacks who do poorly in today's America are those unwilling or unable to finish a good education and work hard like the rest of us. No matter what color you are.....life is rough and you had better prepare as best you can to compete. Being black no longer means special advantage or disadvantage. It's just another color.

Meanwhile I look at all the blacks in all of the career fields today and wonder where the hell anybody would get the nerve to snivel with such a level playing field.


C******~

I want a woman *snip*

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Qd: hey dude, show some respect will ya...dang, I was gonna say, afterall, "I could've been yo momma but the dog beat me across the street," but the truth is I "couldn't" be yo momma cause youz too damn old--fart.

One thing about it though. . .all those black folks of whom you speak. . .are doing better than YOU "could ever dream of doing" with your tired OLD ass. You don't come close to the caliber of people they are, well, maybe in your dreams. YOU people have done nothing but disrespect me, yet you expect me to come to YOU from an area of respect??? please.

ALL y'all can kiss my black ass, trick.

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Subject: Re: Hate on Display. . .
Date: 8/24/2006 12:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: An------izard
MsgId: 141018:735334

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Qd: lizard is THAT YOU???? LOL@the weak-minded trick.

Too dang funny. <<


Liz: Am I *who? I've only posted to you under this s/name, Q. *shrug*


Well, as long as you've found an outlet for your issues in life, I guess all is good. God bless ya, Q.<<<
Qd: Wow, lookie here. The lizard is slithering on a glass ROCK throwing stones. LOL!!!!! too dang funny.

I suggest you concern yourself with your OWN issues in life, trick....Cause g.d knows you have PLENTY, obviously.

Also, take your hypocritical "g.d bless you" and shove it as deep & as far UP your trifling, weak minded a************* as you can.

weak trick

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Tell me, "N", why do you think you have any right to b***********?


Qd:YAWN~

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Tell me, "N" why do you think you have any right to b*************?

Qd:P. S.

YOU need a goooood colon cleansing. cause you are full of cht.

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Message 56 of 97
Subject: Re: Hate on Display. . .
Date: 8/24/2006 6:28 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: BowtotheKlan
MsgId: 141018:735573

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The fact of the matter is that Blacks have hypocritically sustained themselves on the very issue of racism. Since the civil rights era, it's come down to one law for Whites and one law for Blacks, or more accurately, a blatant racial double-standard, a double-standard that our government has implemented and supports.
Fact: The Slave trade was governed by Blacks and Jews, and under 10% of owners/traders were actually White.
The civil rights era did not give Blacks equality and equality opportunity. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 allowed for Blacks to receive preferencial treatment on the sole basis of their race. If we are all equal, as has been drilled into our heads in recent decades by our pro-multiculturalist government, media, and school systems, then there wouldn't be a need to legislate equality and/or equal opportunity, let alone preferencial treatment or racial nepotism more accurately. Though, if Whites dare to question these blatant, hypocritical racial double-standards, they're immediately labled as racists, hatemongers, bigots etc.. not just by Blacks, but by their own fellow Whites! Tell me, does acknowledging these irrefutable facts make anybody a racist, or are they simply acknowledging the truth? There's nothing hateful about the truth. There's nothing racist about the truth. It is time for White Americans to start acknowledging and accepting the truth, and stop being fearful of being labled and ostracized for simply speaking the truth. The truth will always elicit hostility from those who either hate the truth, or those who are consciously guilty of living a lie as those who chose to deny my right to express my opinion here to this driveling hate spouting nigger.

QD: are thinking the above nonsense somehow hurts my feelings, punk? Please. try again. ~YAWN~

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QD: It's NONE of your damn business either way. I ain't tryna BOND with your trifling a****** so get over it.

lizard: You posted it on a public message board, Q, so it's fodder for ANYONE to comment on, tease you, nitpick, cause you to piss and moan further or in general, bug the crap out of you with questions. IE..it IS my business. You simply don't have to answer if you choose not to.

Qd:Blah, blah, blah. . .It is NOT your business because you are POWERLESS to do anything about it. YOU have no power, dig it! I don't take orders OR instructions from the likes of you -- you weak trick you.

You cannot stop me from posting to this board so get over your trifling whiny self.

Go slither back under your rock. And you keep posting your racist crap.

Lizard! Q!

QD: Don't worry your weak little mind about my postings or how I engage the folks on this board.

As you said yourself, you're nothing but a weak little lizard sitting on a rock -- so GET OVER YOURSELF. . . YOU HAVE NO CONTROL.

Again, it's NONE of your business because you have absolutely NO power to control "what" I post -- and you are delusional, if you think you do.

Newsflash: if you don't like the so-called "racist crap" I post -- DON'T READ IT!!!! DUH!!!!! It's as simple as abc, 123.

Dang, what a dumb ass

The minute a weak minded woman [who calls herself a lizard] can tell me what to do is the day I will lay down and die.[/b]

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On this topic, why don't we try telling whites to just "get over 9/11" ??? ...

I'm not saying it wasn't terrible...

But to be perfectly honest, I didn't feel less secure after 9/11 than I felt the day before it. All this crap about "feeling safe" again, as far as I can see, is a white obsession.

Welcome to the real world ... which is definitely not "safe" ... just get over it ...

quote:

Originally posted by HonestBrother:
On this topic, why don't we try telling whites to just "get over 9/11" ??? ...

I'm not saying it wasn't terrible...

But to be perfectly honest, I didn't feel less secure after 9/11 than I felt the day before it. All this crap about "feeling safe" again, as far as I can see, is a white obsession.

Welcome to the real world ... which is definitely not "safe" ... just get over it ...

Exactly!!!

Fab: OK, so I was having a little fun insulting those nasty ass racist pricks...so sue me.

One thing for sure, I don't discriminate -- I tell EVERYBODY [regardless of race] to kiss my black ass when they irk me.

Anyway, MORE from AOL:

Subject: What happens when. . .
Date: 8/26/2006 10:05 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: Qde
MsgId: 141018:737199

33% Rating: 1 of 3 members liked this post. Do you? Yes/No

What happens when you marry:

your brother
uncle
daddy
cousin
grandfather
& stepdaddy. . .


I don't know, ask angelaa25.

She's the authority on the subject.

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Message 2 of 74 Subject 1 of 1
Subject: Re: What happens when. . .
Date: 8/26/2006 10:10 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: CJ---lis
MsgId: 141018:737202

You ever get a sinking feeling you have sunk to a new low???
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QD: Now, ask me if I care?????

Too funny.

I guess I'm supposed to stand by while folks here INSULT me. . .and not say a damn word, right?

yessir massa, ize jus bow my black head and let y'all white folk do & SAY anything y'alls want to me, but Ize jus keep my damn mouth shut. . .

. . oh yeah, and grin about it.

like a good negro.

humph!

fock that chit!

Bring it!<>< !!!!!!

CJ---lis: Bring what, by you insulting whiote folk saying they are inbreed just because they have their won opinion, and staTE FACTS about crime and race?? You want a steriotypical insult fest. I aint going there, ytou want to debate fine, you know what, do what ever you want , you are free to speak you mind, and so am I, you bring it back : ))

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Qd: Ya know. If that's all you see is "white folk disagreeing with me & posting FACTS about crime and race" then we have nothing more to talk about.

Besides, YOU bore me.

However, understand that I will respond according to what *I* feel is appropriate, NOT what is appropriate to YOU or anyone else.

Got it?

Good!

newsflash: you don't have to read my posts ya know. How many times do I have to tell you that, dumb ass??

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CJ---lis: CLICK


Qd: And that's supposed to mean something??

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please.

"click on," dumb ass.

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Bring what, by you insulting whiote folk saying they are inbreed just because they have their won opinion, and staTE FACTS about crime and race?? You want a steriotypical insult fest. I aint going there, ytou want to debate fine, you know what, do what ever you want , you are free to speak you mind, and so am I, you bring it back : ))>Ch*is

Aneg: I agree Chris.. and you have people like Safeharobor that completely ignore the instigator which only proves my point even more. It's ok for black people to talk about the negatives of whites.. but not the other way around. It's reverse discrimination at it's best.

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Safe: Not at all Angelaa25, but there is a difference between posting for the sake of instigation and posting for the sake of discussion. You are doing the former and unfortunately getting the reaction you are looking for by Chris' defense and Quelicious' offense. That is what is so sad. That people give so much credibility to ignorance by defending it or stooping the the same level. <>< !!!

CJ---lis: Kathy it is a fact Black people in the USA comited more crimes on average then whites, much much more, afor whatever reason, and I believe its worth debateing and thinking about. Oakland here has a murder rate of more then 100 people a year, I would guess off the top of my head that 90 csome percent of the murders are cimitted by and against black people.. Not sure of the numbers exaxgtlty ,m, but black crime in the country is out of controll, Black on black crime, and just ignoiring it wont make it go away, we need to figure out why and howe to stop it, change iot, if it was white people killing and dying so much in white areas we would have had marshal law years ago, but people turn their heads and pretend it isnt happening in fear of being labeled a racist, which I am not by the way, but the numbers dont lie.

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<<< CJ-----lis wrote:
and I believe its worth debateing and thinking about.



Safe: But Chris, this isn't a debate. The post was put there for reaction not debate and I think you know that.


*snip* Oakland here has a murder rate of more then 100 people a year, I would guess off the top of my head that 90 csome percent of the murders are cimitted by and against black people.. Not sure of the numbers exaxgtlty ,m, but black crime in the country is out of controll, Black on black crime, and just ignoiring it wont make it go away, we need to figure out why and howe to stop it, change iot, if it was white people killing and dying so much in white areas we would have had marshal law years ago, but people turn their heads and pretend it isnt happening in fear of being labeled a racist, which I am not by the way, but the numbers dont lie. *snip*

safe: Read what is highlighted Chris now tell me you have information to debate with? Guesses, not sure of the number exactly? Real strong arguments. I don't deny Chris that there is out of control crime in this country at it needs to be stopped. I would almost support "by any means" possible, but to blame an entire culture and ONLY that culture ignores the problem as a whole and that will never get it under control by any means. It needs to be looked at as a problem this entire country has and not just say hey if the blacks are killing each other who cares - AS LONG AS NO WHITE PEOPLE GET HURT. In a manner of speaking when we only recognize the harm to whites we are saying kill each other if you want. And Chris I don't think you are a racist either and only those that will point that finger when you disagree with them have to ask why that is the first conclusion they jump to IMO? In my neighborhood there is a lot of black crime.....85% of my neighborhood is black.

The demograpahics alone would dictate that would probably be the case, so I do get what you're saying, What I don't get is why some people in this country feel that only blacks (or any singled out culture for that matter) are capable of vicious criminals.....that is where I have the problem.

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Message 18 of 74 Subject 1 of 1
Subject: Re: What happens when. . .
Date: 8/26/2006 11:33 AM Pacific Standard Time
From: CJ----lis
MsgId: 141018:737310

safe: In my neighborhood there is a lot of black crime.....85% of my neighborhood is black. The demograpahics alone would dictate that would probably be the case, so I do get what you're saying, What I don't get is why some people in this country feel that only blacks (or any singled out culture for that matter) are capable of vicious criminals.....that is where I have the problem. <>< !!!!!!Safe

CJ----lis: I never said only blacks commit crimes, only that they do so at a greater rate per capita then whites for whatever reason. We as a nation turn a blind eye to this, as if its ok because its mostly black on black crime, if it was whites dying and killing like I said, it would be a national emergancy, black comunities arround here know very well the desperate situation they are in, we are in, and its o

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