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In God We Trust!? Is it INRI or IRNI; IRONY
www.flickr.com/photos/karlajeandavis/2396879153 The interpretation of the ‘supposed’ latin initials ‘INRI’ are said to mean ‘In God We Trust’. But, the reverse word kind of hints at another deeper meaning; IRNI or IRONY. The yearly spring (Easter) parade held in many Catholic countries are well depicted with their priesthood marching down the streets holding up a huge cross with a white idol on it of their depiction of Jesus Christ and on top of the cross are written those letters. Umh? I wonder now, what is the irony, if any. |
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And all these years I thought it was Latin ....
IESVS·NAZARENVS·REX·IVDÆORVM Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Jews |
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You are of course correct.  Truth is undoubtedly the sort of error that cannot be refuted because it was hardened into an unalterable form in the long baking process of history... Michel Foucault Hope begets many children illegitimately and prematurely. Allie M. Frazier Beware the terrible simplifiers... Jacob Burckhardt  |
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Interesting. Never knew this even though my cousin spoke Latin. |
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THE ONLY SOCIETY OF PEOPLE ON THE PLANET THAT PUT THESE WORDS ON THEIR MONEY IS IN THE WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
Q. WHY? A. BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT GOD IS THEM AND THEY TRUST NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES! Dr. Anthony T. Browder "Ten Strategies of War" |
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Originally posted by Fine
 Exactly! |
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I checked this info out and realized that it is 'an acronym'. For this reason, this recent explanation for the initials contradict what an acronym really is. |
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Why do you assume it is an acronym (that isn't an acronym) as opposed to an initialism? Truth is undoubtedly the sort of error that cannot be refuted because it was hardened into an unalterable form in the long baking process of history... Michel Foucault Hope begets many children illegitimately and prematurely. Allie M. Frazier Beware the terrible simplifiers... Jacob Burckhardt |
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Peace....
It is interesting that Jesus was labeled " Jesus the Nazarene". So many claim that the title "The Nazarene" is interchangeable or the same as "Of Nazareth". This distinction is very important since if the Title "Nazarene" spoke to Jesus' affiliation with an Essene order it should dramatically alter the way Christians perceive the man and his entire ministry. According to the Gospels, Jesus was actually born in Bethlehem, therefore "Of Nazareth" looses some of it's credibility. Also there are many who doubt that Nazareth even existed during the time of Jesus' birth and life... If Jesus was an essene priest, then Paul invented Christianity..Which is why some call Christianity "Paulianity"... Kai/Whirling Moat |
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You raise several quite interesting issues in the above. There has been a good deal of scholarship about Jesus relationship if any to the Essene community. There are certainly similarities, but my recollection is that the Essene community was essential monastic and millenarian. As to the location of Jesus birth, he probably was not born in Bethlehem. For lack of a better characterization, that is a theological gloss in an effort to link him to the Davidic monarchical lineage and to evoke certain prophetic allusions. With respect to Nazareth, I know that some scholarship says that it possibly existed and may well have been the home if not birth place of Jesus, but the records are scarce because it was basically a little hick village. The dominant city in that region of Judea was Caesarea. Truth is undoubtedly the sort of error that cannot be refuted because it was hardened into an unalterable form in the long baking process of history... Michel Foucault Hope begets many children illegitimately and prematurely. Allie M. Frazier Beware the terrible simplifiers... Jacob Burckhardt |
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Peace....
According to what I have studied, the Essene community was in fact the epitome of a monastic community. I think the Nazorean sect of the order was a rebellious faction formed to resist the powers of Rome. The Nazarene faction seems to have rebelled again some of the strict disciplines of the Monastic Essene community which John the Baptist was affiliated with. I think this would explain some of the behaviour of Jesus as it is presented in the Gospels.
Yep...
Which leads me to believe that Jesus labeled a "Nazarene" due to his affiliation with the order, and not due to where he lived.. If Jesus was the rebel leader of a faction of the Essene order, it would speak directly to the true form of proto-Christianity, and once again raise serious questions about the heavy influence on todays version of Christianity by the Gospel writers and Paul of Tarsus. Pauline Christianity is a far cry from the mysticism of the Essene doctrine. Whirling Moat |
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I based this upon the authors that labelled the initials, INRI, as 'an acroynym' and, I base it upon the usage of acronyms in ancient script form. I also based this upon the Latin usage of the letters 'Ie', 'Iv', 'Iu' and etc. in the spelling of the name of 'Jesus', 'Judaea', 'Jew' and etc. and the later usage of the replacement letter 'J' and etc. I posted some links in another thread about acronyms. |
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Ain't that the truth. Egungun, Egungun ni t'aiye ati jo! Ancestos, Ancestors come to earth and dance! "I'm sick of the war and the civilization that created it. Let's look to our dreams, and the magical; to the creations of the so-called primitive peoples for new inspirations." - Jaques Vache and Andre Breton "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." -John Maynard "You know that in our country there were even matriarchal societies where women were the most important element. On the Bijagos islands they had queens. They were not queens because they were the daughters of kings. They had queens succeeding queens. The religious leaders were women too..." -- Amilcar Cabral, Return to the Source, 1973    |
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http://sacred-texts.com/oto/achad/inri/inri00.htm "......Distinguishing TRUTH from falsehood" 'Change your words into truth And then change that truth into LOVE, And maybe our children's grandchildren , And their great-grandchildren will tell.' |
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Amazing. Thank you. |
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You are very WelCome. "......Distinguishing TRUTH from falsehood" 'Change your words into truth And then change that truth into LOVE, And maybe our children's grandchildren , And their great-grandchildren will tell.' |
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