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Willywill says:
(quote) "I would probably get sick and tired of living a physical life if it consist of paying bills and once you "did it all" what more is there to do? A well deserved rest is needed....Rest is rest, peace is peace" (reply) I can be cool with peace, but don't cha think after the first couple of thousand years of constant rest that you might wanna do something? Something that challenges you; maybe something that gives you a sence of accomplishment? Or do you think you would be given a mentality that would allow you to be content resting for eternity in total bliss.... Kevin[/QUOTE] Spiritual rest is apparently different from just sleep so your body can regenerate itself for the next day. You're dead, you just dead. What more work or challenges are there to accomplish? Just chillin...that's why it's eternal bliss or damnation. lol |
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It doesn't seem like a complicated thing if you go by the classic descriptions of what heaven should be like. I don't think having the mentality of a pet or slave, or losing the dignity of being a free thinking human is necessary to be content up there. However it's supposed to work, we are all supposed to feel good, be without sickness and negative thoughts (which would include boredom), and be very happy. And being that it IS heaven, if, for whatever reason, some of us still had a quest for knowledge or a longing to pursue things of that nature, I'm sure God could acccomodate. I, for one, would like a library up there. A very large, expansive, beautiful library. But then again, maybe I won't need it. Maybe by the time we get up there, we're just automatically satisfied with what we are surrounded by. ***************************************************** "There's no original evil left in the world. Everyone's just recycling pain." -Keith Ablow, Projection ***************************************************** |
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 Exactly...
Maybe between your and my definition of 'God', but I know many people where 'God' is basically the equivalent of Santa Claus for adults...
That's YOUR definition of 'God', not everyone shares that definition. Take myself for instance. I don't think the source/all of consciousness/energy is a 'being' or 'seperate' from us.
Uhhhmmm no Willy Will, Santa Claus DOESN'T EXIST!!! Why are you speaking as if he does?
In my post I referred to 'the simplistic things I was taught as a child'. It occured in this X-ian dominated society and the 'Old testament' largely backs what you just stated up... giving God a particularly vindictive 'mentality'... I of course to not have a simplistic or X-ian spiritual worldview in my adult life... Not that they are one in the same.
Pure conjecture and projection on your part.
What made you bring up the fear mongering some use to religoussly motivate/dominate? Something on your mind? Egungun, Egungun ni t'aiye ati jo! Ancestos, Ancestors come to earth and dance! "I'm sick of the war and the civilization that created it. Let's look to our dreams, and the magical; to the creations of the so-called primitive peoples for new inspirations." - Jaques Vache and Andre Breton "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." -John Maynard "You know that in our country there were even matriarchal societies where women were the most important element. On the Bijagos islands they had queens. They were not queens because they were the daughters of kings. They had queens succeeding queens. The religious leaders were women too..." -- Amilcar Cabral, Return to the Source, 1973    |
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What made me bring that up? Because most people, not all think you should fear God and do good things because you need to do them to get into Heaven. It should be a choice, not out of fear. Santa Claus equal to God? I don't know where you would get that from, but who prays to Santa Claus? You're suppose to see Santa Physically now and God is not a magic genie either... LOL |
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Most people of certain trligious tradition(s) perhaps, but not most people per say. That was my point. I was attempting to get you out of the X-ian universalist projection you have been doing.
Once again you missed my point. Some people's GOD CONCEPT is equivalent in nature(and no more advanced) to how they think about 'God'... Check my first post for further clarification if needed. Egungun, Egungun ni t'aiye ati jo! Ancestos, Ancestors come to earth and dance! "I'm sick of the war and the civilization that created it. Let's look to our dreams, and the magical; to the creations of the so-called primitive peoples for new inspirations." - Jaques Vache and Andre Breton "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." -John Maynard "You know that in our country there were even matriarchal societies where women were the most important element. On the Bijagos islands they had queens. They were not queens because they were the daughters of kings. They had queens succeeding queens. The religious leaders were women too..." -- Amilcar Cabral, Return to the Source, 1973 |
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Didn't you know that you get your own heaven and hell right here on earth?
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It would be nice just to have it Heaven on Earth, oh but there are just some people who ruin that chance. You know also, what you do now (for those who believe in a God) in this life; being a very moral person (no one is perfect) and yep believing/knowing that there is a God (other words, feeling God's presences) can get you into Paradise. Of course the question comes up, "Why does God send people to Hell?" It's people who make that choice, people...even the so call "religious" nut jobs end up in Damnation...you can believe in God, but not follow God (by being moral) and be denied into paradise. Atheism, that is a choice isn't? Proof of a God? Depends if you think God is suppose to be physical, when God is a spiritual entity, like the force. lol |
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I don't see myself in heaven, I see myself as one of the righteous ones who inherit the earth. In heaven all they do......day in & day out is sing HOLY HOLY HOLY while praising Almighty G.d 24/7. On earth there's a different plan........an old man is as a young boy....all the wild animals live together peacefully & folk don't get sick or grow old, cuz the former things have passed away. I take that to mean I'll have a 30 something body for like 'FOREVER'......... I'll spend my days taking pictures of wild life.....embracing my brothers & sisters without fear of hidden agendas, back-stabbing, lying & cheating & plain ole evil.....I can express my true self without worry or concern. It'll be about rebuilding a better world..........at least, for about a 1000 years until satan the devil is released from his prison THEN all the hidden agendas, back-stabbing, lying, cheating, HATE, & evil starts all over again. LOL
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