http://www.isi.org/lectures/flvplayer/lectureplayer.asp...87_cicero_102207.flv

I am so tired of the pathetic notion that has ballooned in our society that anythang and anybody who is not christian is athiest....which is a "completly seperate " from not believing in God. Yet in this video as with other debates of this nature, the pro-christian is conveniently confusing the two to win his point....point being, Christians are the only ones with the Only True God. That is so, so very arrogant that has and still is promoting death and destruction.....all over the World. Everyone Needs to believe in something....that is ok. But to degrade other people's belief by saying that Christianity and Jesus is the Only way to heaven is really a bad thing. Christianity has Never been able to take it's own sh$t. Rules were thought up like"Never question God" and women...well women....what women??? Slavery has never been as harsh as it has been no where else until the enslavement by wt. Indentured is NOT the same as slavery. And it is so funny because the same ancient spiritual cultures that christianity tries to knock out, are the same upon which itwas invented out of. But of course, No christian will admit to that.
I guess that since my ancestors were definitely not christians....I guess all of them....went straight to HELL

I remember this debate. It was a pretty good debate between the two.

As I've watched this and other debates on religion; I got to thinkin':

I do not see them (on both sides of the topic) saying anything much different than what we say here. I will go further to say, they aren't saying ANYTHING that we haven't said, asked, whatever -with regard to religion.

They don't "thought provoke" any better than we do here on AA.org.


Many of us, may not come off like the so-called "intellectuals", and will at times inject 'personality' [especially me] into our means of expressing or sharing perspectives, which makes this topic of discussion (and others), interesting to say the least.

So why the F we gotta approach the subject of religion like "them", in order to not be charged with attempted "proselytization"?

If someone feels induced to convert, then who's that on?

...Ultimately?

Ain't tihs up in here -anyone can say to make others change their views, unless or until that person(s) decide to change their views.

So why talk about it, then? Well hell, why talk about anything?

Because we can. That is why...

Git something from it.

Git nothing from it.

Or just git.

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